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Old 11-18-2018, 03:12 PM   #271 (permalink)
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Same as Mexico Beach one good thing about Camp Fire is a lot of exurbs where people shouldn’t live anyway is being destroyed.
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Old 11-23-2018, 06:55 PM   #272 (permalink)
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The new US government report, The Fourth National Climate Assessment is full of bad news, I'm afraid. The bottom line seems to be that we are already suffering from the effects of global warming and it'll be getting worse. This is how CNN and the BBC are assessing the report:-


The White House's obvious hope of burying the report by releasing it over a national holiday weekend turns out to be more ironic than they imagined: a Black Friday indeed.
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:08 PM   #273 (permalink)
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Something to ponder:

Could an anti-global warming atmospheric spraying program really work?
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:00 PM   #274 (permalink)
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Great, more geo-engineering, making this planet less and less habitable for humans.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:57 PM   #275 (permalink)
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Toxic Chemical Spill In Southern China 10 Times Worse Than Previously Disclosed

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A toxic chemical leak in southern China, which put 52 people in hospital and has cost affected fishing villages millions of dollars in lost revenue, was 10 times worse than previously reported.


Quanzhou city authorities, on Sunday, confirmed that 69 tons of the petrochemical C9 [a by-product of the oil refining process] had spilled into the local seawater, far in excess of the originally claimed seven tons.


Two officials have been sacked [fired] for negligence, in addition to the arrests of seven people for their roles in the incident.


Fishermen in Xiaocuo, the coastal village where the leak occurred, have consistently questioned the official version of events, which began on November 4th when a tube carrying the toxic liquid from a local petrochemical plant to a tanker came loose.


Quanzhou is the most populous city in the southeastern Chinese province of Fujian, and its Quangang district is well known for its fishing industry. Petrochemical plants have been built near many of its fishing villages.


Four days after villagers were woken by a strong chemical odor, they were told by the authorities that around seven tons of the C9 chemical mix had been spilled.


Residents reported dizziness, nausea and vomiting from inhaling the fumes, while others received contact burns when they tried to salvage fishing equipment from the poisoned seas.


They were assured by the local authorities that chemical levels in the affected area were within safe limits and that the clean-up had been completed by November 9th, five days after the incident.


Now, the Quanzhou city government says that senior executives at Fujian Donggang Petrochemical Company deliberately deceived local authorities about the extent of the contamination.


Three of those arrested are employees of Donggang Petrochemical, while the other four were working on the tanker, the Tiantong No 1.


Chen Xiangcheng, a member of the local party standing committee of Quangang, the district of Quanzhou city where the incident took place, has been sacked for negligence. Lian Jianxing, deputy head of administrative affairs for the local port, was dismissed for failing to carry out adequate safety checks.


“The incident was mainly caused by the negligence of the petrochemical company that led to a failure of chemical safety regulation,” the Quangang government said.


According to the government’s latest investigation, Donggang Petrochemical failed to mention that the tube connecting the tanker and the refinery was full the night before the leak and all of its contents [around 32 tons] ended up in the sea.


The government investigation also found the petrochemical firm had lied about how much C9 was in the tanker, adding another 30 tons to the total contamination.


“Based on the very visible oil stains in the fish farms and nearby seawater, I think tens of tons of C9 were leaked,” Xiao Renhong, a resident of Xiaocuo village, said after the government released the seven-ton figure.


Xiao, who farms edible seaweed, believes the new figure is still an under-estimation. “I think the amount is around 80 tons. It’s still 10 tons short,” he said.


Xiao Liangping, a fisherman in Xiaocuo village, said he believed the new figure was about right, but wondered why it took the government so long to announce it.


“The latest investigation said they removed 40 tons of chemical using oil sponges a few days after the incident. Why didn’t they correct the number then?”


Fisherman and villagers such as Xiao Renhong are still waiting for compensation.
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Beekeepers in and around Cape Town, South Africa are facing significant losses of their pollinators in recent weeks.

The mass deaths have been linked to an insecticide called fipronil that was likely incorrectly used by the area's wine farmers, according to media reports.

Brendan Ashley-Cooper, the vice-chairperson of Western Cape Bee Industry Association, told the BBC about 100 of his hives were affected and between 1 million and 1.5 million bees died.

"A week ago. we started getting calls that beekeepers were finding dead bees in front of their hives. I came to inspect my bee site and found similar results and found thousands upon thousands of dead bees in front of a lot of my bee hives," the commercial farmer told South African broadcaster eNCA.

The beekeepers suspected that the area's wine farmers were spraying their vineyards with a mix of ant poison and molasses, the Weekend Argus reported last week.

Ashley-Cooper sent a sample of the mixture to a laboratory in Cape Town, which determined that fipronil was the main ingredient in the sample, the West Argus reported over the weekend. The wine farmers have since stopped using the pesticide.

Other area beekeepers lost hives, including Lawrence Woollam, who told the West Argus his business will be severely impacted after losing between 90 percent and 100 percent of his bees.

Fipronil is a broad-spectrum insecticide used to control ants, beetles, cockroaches, fleas, ticks, termites and other insects. It works by disrupting the central nervous system of invertebrates.

As the South African explained, the bees were likely attracted to the sweetness of the molasses. After ingesting the potent mixture, they brought it back to their hives and infected the rest of their colony.

Both wild and managed bee hives in Cape Town's southern areas were affected, Ashley-Cooper told the BBC.

Honey bees and wild bees are vital for crop pollination and are a critical part of our food system. One out of every three bites of food we eat is dependent on bees for pollination, according to the Natural Resources Defense Council. However, bee populations are crashing around the world due to factors such as neonicotinoids, habitat loss and disease.

The Cape Town beekeepers, wine farmers and the government are now working together to find a solution to the problem. Further tests will be conducted to confirm whether the pesticide is to blame.

"The farmers have been very concerned about the bee die-off. We're having meetings with the farmers in the next couple of days to have a look if they have caused this problem and to see if we can find solutions,"
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:51 AM   #277 (permalink)
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good kill them all hate bees

one got in my car the other day and it was upsetting
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:14 AM   #278 (permalink)
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^ You shouldn't pre-judge all bees just based on the one in your car, elphenor; that's anti-beeism.
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What's with all the environmental reports coming out? By my count:-

Friday Nov 23: The Fourth National Climate Assessment (see earlier post)

Tues Nov 27: The UN Emissions Gap Report:-



And now, Weds Nov 28: The Lancet Countdown on Health and Climate Change:- https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/28/h...ntl/index.html

They are all variations on the same depressing message, including the facts that CO2 emissions are on the rise again and we aren't even meeting the bare-minimum reductions proposed in the Paris Agreement.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:13 PM   #279 (permalink)
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I don’t know if you ever listen to the Project Censored podcast but a recent episode was exploring the psychology of why even people who are very aware of the problems and in fact are very concerned are not changing their behavior even in light of the knowledge of the catastrophe.

My thoughts have been mostly along the “selfish gene” sociobiological perspective but these guys think more along mass cultural lines. Interesting but depressing. The answers to those kinds of questions are of course multilayered. Unfortunately, instead of dealing with it from every angle we’re hardly even taking a simple linear approach.

Not so much the movie but the book The Road I think gets into this in the subtext. The end of humanity as a whole isn’t really anymore devastating to an individual than the certain death we all face.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:18 PM   #280 (permalink)
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Sounds like how most people approach religion. They say the words, they believe in god, but they don't go to church or do anything that would make you think they were religious without asking them. It's just kind of an identity thing that's too big and not a part of their real lives to truly commit to.
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