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Old 08-13-2019, 04:55 PM   #3141 (permalink)
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Nah I've met the non binary types at college. It's just a general hunch. It might be worth nothing if I'm wrong. If I'm right then it's just worth being right.

I feel like you wanting to shut this discussion down rather than engage in it is based in insecurity in your own position tbh
I feel like you wanting to have ad nauseum debates on every single controversial topic is based in insecurity cause if you don't loudly proclaim what you think about everything then people won't know how smart you hope you are.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 08-13-2019, 04:59 PM   #3142 (permalink)
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I feel like you wanting to have ad nauseum debates on every single controversial topic is based in insecurity cause if you don't loudly proclaim what you think about everything then people won't know how smart you hope you are.
i feel like you turned that on me as a defense mechanism

I have only been responding to points as they've been raised. The fact is that as usual you have no response to my actual points so instead you seek to discredit me and poison the well.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:23 PM   #3143 (permalink)
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i feel like you turned that on me as a defense mechanism

I have only been responding to points as they've been raised. The fact is that as usual you have no response to my actual points so instead you seek to discredit me and poison the well.
Your point seems to amount to a different version of what I've seen all over the internet from people of varying degrees of toxicity. You don't really believe in trans people being the gender they identify as even if there's clearly something going on, what even is gender?, and non-binary people are chasing a trend. I mean what exactly is worth refuting? Neither of us have a smoking gun scientific study proving or disproving anything and to some extent we're either taking or not taking someone's word about something that's abstract to a point that even trying to articulate it is like grasping at water. There are psychologists and writers who try to shed light on gender but at the end of the day we're still taking someone's word that they're not just crazy or faking.

Personally I think that most supposedly trans people aren't going around actively making themselves targets of bigotry just to feel special, I don't know trans people IRL to be able to give any legitimate opinion on their sanity, and if some people are just "kinda" non-binary and maybe look like they're trying for attention and you're mainly seeing them on Youtube or Tumblr or some other site that attracts people seeking attention then that's not necessarily a hill worth taking if it's addressing a non-issue and spreading cynicism towards "real" trans people in the process.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:38 PM   #3144 (permalink)
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most people still identify with the same gender they were given at birth and as a result probably never think about gender much
What if you appear very androgynous and you don’t care if people think you’re male or female?
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:43 PM   #3145 (permalink)
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Your point seems to amount to a different version of what I've seen all over the internet from people of varying degrees of toxicity. You don't really believe in trans people being the gender they identify as even if there's clearly something going on, what even is gender?,
I don't believe I said that.

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some are, imo

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Personally I think that most supposedly trans people aren't going around actively making themselves targets of bigotry just to feel special,
most trans people fall into the category of mtf or ftm. More so mtf.

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I don't know trans people IRL to be able to give any legitimate opinion on their sanity, and if some people are just "kinda" non-binary and maybe look like they're trying for attention and you're mainly seeing them on Youtube or Tumblr or some other site that attracts people seeking attention then that's not necessarily a hill worth taking if it's addressing a non-issue and spreading cynicism towards "real" trans people in the process.
So basically even if I'm right I shouldn't be saying what I'm saying here?
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:45 PM   #3146 (permalink)
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Should we differentiate between statutory rape and forced rape?
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Old 08-13-2019, 08:56 PM   #3147 (permalink)
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Should we differentiate between statutory rape and forced rape?
NVM I guess adding sexual assault to it does differentiate it.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:40 PM   #3148 (permalink)
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wonder how that youthness, could be that "radical" change people want... like how the right got with Trump?
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