Political Discussions for "Adults"

Lucem Ferre · 09-17-2020, 09:40 PM

Spicy.

Psy-Fi · 09-18-2020, 08:09 AM

Kosovo awards Trump with Order of Freedom for peace efforts

SGR · 09-18-2020, 08:16 AM

Nobody is more peaceful than President Donald J. Trump. I've talked to a lot of peaceful people and they all agree, Donald Trump is probably the most peaceful person ever, or at least since the Great Mahatma Gandhi, okay? Believe me.

TheBig3 · 09-18-2020, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

None. I don't want the next empire. I mean the next empire no matter how much better or worse will be an unjust tyrant who uses their brawn to ruin lives for the sake of rich people. I mean you can justify whatever you want however you want but at the end of the day if you take your position all you're doing is acting as a buffer against rich people excesses against poor people misery.

You know in the interest of international brotherhood, I'm going to assume you're tripping up here over the merging of two things:

1. Who wants an empire?
2. Are rich people moral?

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No one wants an empire. Sadly, regional strong men, that look like they're going to replace America on the global stage as the dominant law enforcement, didn't come to Musicbanter to check-in with Batlord as to whether or not he wants that.

Your policies would amount to the globe looking like Syria. I'm all ears as to how I'm wrong on this one. But Assad gassed children. America stayed home. Now look at it. What a peaceful non-empire they have.

Secondly, I don't know how rich people got involved here, but they're a cancer. The Death Tax should be abnormally high, because at least the first person earned it, but the "influencer" children that let hedge fund managers run their finances, and tell poor people to work hard should be guillotined on Pay-per-View.

**Frownland** · 09-18-2020, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

No one wants an empire.

It's easy to say there's no winners when you're winning. Maybe nobody "wants" an empire, but the reality of the situation is that the u.s. is an empire that acts in its self-interest over any claimed ethical reasons.

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Sadly, regional strong men, that look like they're going to replace America on the global stage as the dominant law enforcement, didn't come to Musicbanter to check-in with Batlord as to whether or not he wants that.

One case against american intervention in the middle east is that a local or regional authority is more likely to see accountability from its people than one that's overseas. That's a big reason why I'm in favour of decentralizing the united states down to the city/town level (this is me taking an unpopular stance owo). Not to mention that interventionalist actions validate and garner support for those regional strongmen. I see it having a similar effect as american aggression and postwar struggles influencing the communist boon of the 20th century.

Are you worried that regional strongmen in the middle east will similarly intervene on europe and america if we don't intervene on them first? Or were you thinking Putin?

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Your policies would amount to the globe looking like Syria. I'm all ears as to how I'm wrong on this one. But Assad gassed children. America stayed home. Now look at it. What a peaceful non-empire they have.

Should the united states be intervened on for gassing protesters?

Mindfulness · 09-18-2020, 03:00 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jJzXDJjU9I

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Face the Nation moderator Margaret Brennan talks politics as we race towards the November election.

OccultHawk · 09-18-2020, 04:57 PM

Trump Administration to Ban TikTok and WeChat From U.S. App Stores

Because China censors the internet but America is free.

~~jwb~~ · 09-18-2020, 05:27 PM

I'm not defending banning Tik Tok but you comparing that to the Chinese censorship of the net for their citizens is Western privilege.

IMO Tik Tok is indeed very likely to be spyware but then again so are all other forms of social media.

Mindfulness · 09-18-2020, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I'm not defending banning Tik Tok but you comparing that to the Chinese censorship of the net for their citizens is Western privilege.

IMO Tik Tok is indeed very likely to be spyware but then again so are all other forms of social media.

Mark Zuckerberg spying on us through instagram I heard recently..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-cameras.html

SGR · 09-18-2020, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I'm not defending banning Tik Tok but you comparing that to the Chinese censorship of the net for their citizens is Western privilege.

IMO Tik Tok is indeed very likely to be spyware but then again so are all other forms of social media.

Yup. Our government doesn't mind at all when it can leverage domestic tech companies to spy on us. But when another government does it, forget it! This is a monogamous spying relationship!

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SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,326	Nobody is more peaceful than President Donald J. Trump. I've talked to a lot of peaceful people and they all agree, Donald Trump is probably the most peaceful person ever, or at least since the Great Mahatma Gandhi, okay? Believe me.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I'm not defending banning Tik Tok but you comparing that to the Chinese censorship of the net for their citizens is Western privilege. IMO Tik Tok is indeed very likely to be spyware but then again so are all other forms of social media.