Political Discussions for "Adults"

TheBig3 · 12-03-2020, 09:29 PM

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Biden said flat out when asked if he'll meet with Kim he said not without getting some serious concessions first.

It's not just the Democrats. Every president has dealt with NK in the same exact manner and it's been a failing strategy for decades. I dunno why you would possibly think Joe Biden of all people would be the one to break from that mold.

Clinton just had an attempt at a deal that fell through.News flash: if you're still expecting NK to give up on it's nuclear program after all these years you have your head in the sand.

I don't expect any nation to give up its nuclear program after Iraq. I think Libya only reinforced that. The 800 lbs. Gorilla in the room now is China, who seems to have mastered the art of using our weapons against us both militarily and financially. They can't match us toe-to-toe but they're well aware that be shaking our hand with the left, and building a tank with the right, they're not only impossible to invade, they're capable of damaging us with weapons and economics.

China's the key to the global stage so long as they remain strong and don't give a **** what we think about who they trade with, giving a sort of immunity to Iran, Russia, and North Korea.

It's slightly funny that Trump ran so hard on dashing the Iran nuclear deal, because what really lead to that was both Russia and China saying "We're done putting sanctions on Iran, you won't have the UN Security Council votes to keep them." That gets lost in the news about Iran, but it means that while they get an outrageous amount of heat for the level of threat they are, others are only incentivized to support them. Iran, unlike N. Korea and Russia, are more sympathetic to the world since their government was toppled by the US, and they routinely get attacked by the US and Israel.

OccultHawk · 12-04-2020, 03:00 AM

Is there anyone outside of the United States who doesn’t think that China would easily destroy America in a war? Because that conclusion astonishes me.

The Batlord · 12-04-2020, 03:23 AM

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Is there anyone outside of the United States who doesn’t think that China would easily destroy America in a war? Because that conclusion astonishes me.

Why do you think that?

OccultHawk · 12-04-2020, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Why do you think that?

Because America’s military is made up of Americans.

~~jwb~~ · 12-04-2020, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I don't expect any nation to give up its nuclear program after Iraq. I think Libya only reinforced that. The 800 lbs. Gorilla in the room now is China, who seems to have mastered the art of using our weapons against us both militarily and financially. They can't match us toe-to-toe but they're well aware that be shaking our hand with the left, and building a tank with the right, they're not only impossible to invade, they're capable of damaging us with weapons and economics.

China's the key to the global stage so long as they remain strong and don't give a **** what we think about who they trade with, giving a sort of immunity to Iran, Russia, and North Korea.

It's slightly funny that Trump ran so hard on dashing the Iran nuclear deal, because what really lead to that was both Russia and China saying "We're done putting sanctions on Iran, you won't have the UN Security Council votes to keep them." That gets lost in the news about Iran, but it means that while they get an outrageous amount of heat for the level of threat they are, others are only incentivized to support them. Iran, unlike N. Korea and Russia, are more sympathetic to the world since their government was toppled by the US, and they routinely get attacked by the US and Israel.

maybe you don't expect them to. Biden and the status quo Washington types either do expect that or pretend to expect it as a prerequisite for even opening up a direct line of communication between the White House and NK.

~~jwb~~ · 12-04-2020, 03:50 AM

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Because America’s military is made up of Americans.

American drones. Probably made in China though.

Either way China would get btfo. You're dreaming son.

The Batlord · 12-04-2020, 03:51 AM

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Because America’s military is made up of Americans.

Good thing I wasn't expecting a real answer or I'd be disappointed.

Gutmensch · 12-04-2020, 05:37 AM

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Ideally, sure it would be good if the whole world disarmed their nuclear capacities. We don't live in an ideal world though and no serious power is going to trust their adversaries to do so. So it is what it is.

The USA are a so-called christian nation. And the republicans have a strong christian base.

So can you explain to me why republican governments haven't reduced the nuclear potential in your country?

I mean this would be very christian. Republicans fight against abortion but Jesus never said something about this topic. Jesus told many things about peacefulness etc.

So I don't understand why the republicans don't follow these words.

The Batlord · 12-04-2020, 07:14 AM

I don't think they had nuclear weapons in the Bible.

OccultHawk · 12-04-2020, 07:27 AM

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I don't think they had nuclear weapons in the Bible.

Least clever post ever. The entire theme of the New Testament is pacifism and generosity.

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