Political Discussions for "Adults" - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge > Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-11-2022, 02:54 PM   #9761 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwb View Post
I mean I would but I take Covid misinformation very seriously
Hey did I mock you for going on about Alex Jones and Bohemian Grove?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 04:54 PM   #9762 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Norg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,344
Default




MASTER TROLL :P
Norg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 04:59 PM   #9763 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Norg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,344
Default

why did the US government kill JFK again like the reason ..???
Norg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 05:12 PM   #9764 (permalink)
SGR
No Ice In My Bourbon
 
SGR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: /dev/null
Posts: 4,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Norg View Post
why did the US government kill JFK again like the reason ..???
It's because he wanted to tell the American people the truth about J. Edgar Hoover and his proclivity to rub chunky peanut butter on his nipples and dance in petite women's lingerie every fortnight at dawn
SGR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 05:37 PM   #9765 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default

I'd say the most rational CONSPIRACY reason would just be that he failed as an anti-communist by cancelling the air strikes on Cuban airfields during the Cuban Missile Crisis and the CIA wanted him out. Not that I'm a JFK conspiracist but the Allen Dulles era of the CIA was pretty insane and worthy of conspiracy theories.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 06:18 PM   #9766 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Norg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,344
Default

never mind i found out pretty much


Money and power .....
Norg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 06:31 PM   #9767 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Norg View Post
never mind i found out pretty much


Money and power .....
Oh wow please tell us everything.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 08:23 PM   #9768 (permalink)
eat the masters
 
debaserr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,467
Default

I wouldn't put it past LBJ honestly. Dude was scary effective at backdoor maneuvers. I loved these books:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ye...Lyndon_Johnson
__________________
Last.FM
debaserr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2022, 08:43 PM   #9769 (permalink)
SGR
No Ice In My Bourbon
 
SGR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: /dev/null
Posts: 4,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by debaserr View Post
I wouldn't put it past LBJ honestly. Dude was scary effective at backdoor maneuvers. I loved these books:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ye...Lyndon_Johnson
One of the best biographies on a US President I've ever read. Can't wait for the next one.

I'm not sure how much I buy LBJ being involved, though he was conniving and calculated. I never read the book, but Roger Stone (yeah, that Roger Stone) wrote a book about the evidence that points to LBJ being involved. Here's a quote from Stone taken from a Salon interview - he's not a fan of the Caro books:

Quote:
Johnson's right-hand man, Secretary of the U.S. Senate Bobby Baker, says on Inaugural Day 1961, a very cold day, that John Kennedy will not live out his term and he will die a violent death. Johnson's motives are very clear. Not only was he being dumped from the ticket in 1964— indeed, Evelyn Lincoln, President Kennedy's personal secretary, says in her memoir he told her on the eve of leaving for Dallas that he was dumping Johnson— but Johnson was under investigation in two enormous scandals: the Bobby Baker scandal, Bobby Baker the Senate secretary was splitting bribes with Johnson, but more importantly, the Billie Sol Estes scandal.

Sol Estes was a flamboyant Texas wheeler-dealer and he and Johnson were involved in corrupt practices including federal contracts. Robert Caro wrote a four-volume biography of Lyndon Johnson but if you check the index there's no mention of Sol Estes, he's missing. I went and checked and in terms of coverage the Billie Sol Estes got twice the coverage at the time than the Baker scandal did, but it's been airbrushed out of history by Caro. Why? I'll tell you why: because Sol Estes, after he comes out of prison, has nothing to gain and informs the Justice Department of Johnson's involvement in the death of John F. Kennedy. Therefore, I presume, if Caro introduced the character he would have to tell the whole story, so it's better just to airbrush Billie Sol out of the picture.

Caro lies by omission; he should be stripped of his Pulitzer. He is intellectually dishonest, but he's more interested in going to the right Upper East Side cocktail party than he is in historical truth.
https://www.salon.com/2015/01/28/rog...gop_trickster/

Wikipedia gives a short and dirty on these allegations by Billie Sol Estes that Stone is referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie...edy_and_others

Take it all with a grain of salt, of course.

Last edited by SGR; 07-11-2022 at 08:53 PM.
SGR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2022, 11:06 AM   #9770 (permalink)
Be aware of the psyop
 
Mindfulness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 9,999
Default


Last edited by Mindfulness; 07-15-2022 at 12:05 PM.
Mindfulness is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.