Hong Kong and China

SGR · 09-18-2020, 08:21 PM

Okay everyone, let's pick our favorite scapegoat for all the world's problems. Just one will do. Don't be shy.

OccultHawk · 09-18-2020, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

they aren't though without conservative politics

and the genocide you're supporting is about race, stop deluding yourself

What race?

Plus Christians always appropriate leftist causes. They won’t even let you feed people so they can corner the market. Try it and see.

OccultHawk · 09-18-2020, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

Okay everyone, let's pick our favorite scapegoat for all the world's problems. Just one will do. Don't be shy.

There’s a clear and obvious choice. People who drive black trucks.

~~jwb~~ · 09-18-2020, 09:18 PM

He still specified black though

Psy-Fi · 09-22-2020, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Wonder how China would handle a black minority.

Whitewashing machines with black agitators...

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2020, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

they aren't though without conservative politics

and the genocide you're supporting is about race, stop deluding yourself

it's about race and ideology. The CCP has a long legacy of being Han-supremacist as well as persecuting religious and ideolgical movements they perceive as subversive to the state.

The real point is that genocide is wrong and never makes the world a better place. Doesn't really matter to me what their motivation is.

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2020, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Hi I post on music banter

I know some religious people who are pretty cool actually

Who cares if they’re ****ing up the whole world

The important thing is to respect each other’s differences

They taught me that in America.

The main way religion ****s up the world is by forcing itself on other people. Which is the very solution you're proposing.

State atheism is essentially a religious theocracy.

SGR · 09-22-2020, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

The main way religion ****s up the world is by forcing itself on other people. Which is the very solution you're proposing.

State atheism is essentially a religious theocracy.

When religion is forciby suppressed in countries by the government, the void is almost always filled by statism. It's not an effective long-term solution, in my eyes. The Soviet Union tried it and the country they left behind is now more religious than the US is.

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2020, 04:42 PM

Religion as a whole only ever seems to be surpressed in authoritarian countries that have their own dogmatic doctrines they require the populous to buy into, which they feel is subverted by deviant religious and ideolgical tendencies. So those doctrines act very much as a sort of state religion... Especially since the doctrines of said societies are usually based on the premise of some utopian vision.

In every other society, religious suppression only ever happens on behalf of one religion against another religion or set of religions.. IMO state atheism is no different in this regard.

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2020, 04:50 PM

It also often reinforces said oppression. Again I'm not arguing religion is even necessarily a force for good on average... But compelling people to either believe it not believe in certain religious ideas is always a bad thing. It's theocratic to the core.

09-18-2020, 08:21 PM	#301 (permalink)
SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,326	Okay everyone, let's pick our favorite scapegoat for all the world's problems. Just one will do. Don't be shy.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	He still specified black though

09-22-2020, 04:42 PM	#309 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Religion as a whole only ever seems to be surpressed in authoritarian countries that have their own dogmatic doctrines they require the populous to buy into, which they feel is subverted by deviant religious and ideolgical tendencies. So those doctrines act very much as a sort of state religion... Especially since the doctrines of said societies are usually based on the premise of some utopian vision. In every other society, religious suppression only ever happens on behalf of one religion against another religion or set of religions.. IMO state atheism is no different in this regard.

09-22-2020, 04:50 PM	#310 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	It also often reinforces said oppression. Again I'm not arguing religion is even necessarily a force for good on average... But compelling people to either believe it not believe in certain religious ideas is always a bad thing. It's theocratic to the core.