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Old 06-06-2011, 01:10 PM   #5901 (permalink)
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:54 PM   #5902 (permalink)
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Two for the vaults:

- Electric Light Orchestra was a great band, not at all worse than, say, Queen and way better than Roxy Music.

- Alice Cooper was and is a better songwriter than David Bowie. And Jeff Lynne too, while I'm on it.
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:11 PM   #5903 (permalink)
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Agreed. I think Bowie is actually really overrated to be honest with you.

someone on another board I go to said it perfectly: "David Bowie - A cup of pretentious dribble anyone? OK, he was a capable songwriter, maybe even a music/fashion genius and he knew how to move things along. But I buy records and listen to music for the music.....there's something lacking here."
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:24 PM   #5904 (permalink)
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David Bowie was good, but only a "genius" when he had Brian Eno around to help with his songs.
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:25 PM   #5905 (permalink)
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yeah, speaking of overrated. As he said as well "Brian Eno - Blehhhhhhhh.....write a song, stop pretending you do by putting sound effects on it. Just write a damn song."
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yeah, speaking of overrated. As he said as well "Brian Eno - Blehhhhhhhh.....write a song, stop pretending you do by putting sound effects on it. Just write a damn song."
Yeesh, this is incredible ignorance. I've never known Eno to be effect heavy. Sample heavy? Yes. Heavy in equalizing, and overdubbing? yeah, but not much more than any other producer, thing is, he's efficient and good with it.
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I think he meant it terms of samples, not effects.

I have personally never been huge on his music, so to a degree i see his point. Every song i have heard falls into what he says. More something I listen to if i wanna sleep.
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And while we're on the subject

Double Nickels On The Dime = Boring
It's funky--of course you don't like it!
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Agreed. I think Bowie is actually really overrated to be honest with you.

someone on another board I go to said it perfectly: "David Bowie - A cup of pretentious dribble anyone? OK, he was a capable songwriter, maybe even a music/fashion genius and he knew how to move things along. But I buy records and listen to music for the music.....there's something lacking here."
Bowie was good, and I think he has made some great songs, but the one thing he was the true master of was self-promotion. Musically though, he has spent most of his career hanging on the coattails of his betters. The Berlin era was the closest he came to originality but, as has been pointed out, even that was with the aid of Eno.
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Don't worry, you'll grow out of it when you hear better albums.

And while we're on the subject

Double Nickels On The Dime = Boring
I do not know. It is not my favorite Minutemen album by any means, but it has it's moments. I do not know if I would call it boring, as much as just so much to take in at one time that it gets tiring. Whenever I listen to it now, I listen to 5 or 6 songs at a time, listen to something else, and listen to 5 or 6 more and so on and so on... can't listen to that album in one sitting. It is better in small doses.
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