Albums You're Digging II

Justthefacts · 06-28-2015, 09:27 PM

Desaparacedos - Payola

My brother got me into their first record and it's a great album. With this one, 13 years later, I wouldn't expect anything less than exceptional. And they did it. It's fantastic.

**Frownland** · 06-29-2015, 11:53 AM

Peter Brotzmann, Paal Nilssen-Love, Mats Gustafsson - The Fat is Gone

Three of the best modern players in free jazz doing what they do best. Gustafsson's elephantine saxing and Brotzmann's squeaking/riffage are great, but Nilssen-Love steals the show on the drums. Mother****er is a damn machine. He makes most of the well known renowned drummers look like Ringo.

Josef K · 06-29-2015, 12:32 PM

Nice, that album is great.

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**Frownland** · 06-29-2015, 12:36 PM

Damn censorship.

YorkeDaddy · 06-29-2015, 08:09 PM

I actually hadn't even listened to this until after Trollheart's recent review despite being a pretty big fan of Sufjan's earlier work. I won't say I love every song, but the tracks that I do love I seriously love, I've been playing "Death with Dignity" over and over. What a spectacular track.

Overall a very nice album...one of his best and it certainly includes some of the best individual songs he's ever written, and frankly only very few have ever come close to writing songs as good.

Josef K · 06-29-2015, 08:22 PM

I'm gonna be honest, I've been completely unable to get into that album. And I don't know a single other person who's heard it who doesn't like it, and it's not because it isn't accessible or whatever, but I just find it sort of mediocre. Like I really really wish he wouldn't do the thing where you hear his voice twice all the time - does that have a name or am I making this up? It's not even like there are multiple tracks of his voice, it's like I'm always hearing two of him singing in unison.

**Frownland** · 06-29-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K

I'm gonna be honest, I've been completely unable to get into that album. And I don't know a single other person who's heard it who doesn't like it, and it's not because it isn't accessible or whatever, but I just find it sort of mediocre. Like I really really wish he wouldn't do the thing where you hear his voice twice all the time - does that have a name or am I making this up? It's not even like there are multiple tracks of his voice, it's like I'm always hearing two of him singing in unison.

Pretty much my thoughts on Stevens in general.

YorkeDaddy · 06-29-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K

I'm gonna be honest, I've been completely unable to get into that album. And I don't know a single other person who's heard it who doesn't like it, and it's not because it isn't accessible or whatever, but I just find it sort of mediocre. Like I really really wish he wouldn't do the thing where you hear his voice twice all the time - does that have a name or am I making this up? It's not even like there are multiple tracks of his voice, it's like I'm always hearing two of him singing in unison.

lol well there's obviously multiple tracks of his voice...

I mean you could call it "harmonizing"...is it just the style he uses in particular that you don't like? Because a huge amount of music utilizes vocal harmony, whether it's between multiple people or just one person. I highly doubt you dislike harmony as a whole lol so if it's just his style you can't dig then that's definitely fair. I've always liked it personally

Josef K · 06-29-2015, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

lol well there's obviously multiple tracks of his voice...

I mean you could call it "harmonizing"...is it just the style he uses in particular that you don't like? Because a huge amount of music utilizes vocal harmony, whether it's between multiple people or just one person. I highly doubt you dislike harmony as a whole lol so if it's just his style you can't dig then that's definitely fair. I've always liked it personally

No, it's not the harmony. I don't mean like the Panda Bear or I guess Elliott Smith kind of thing where he's singing multiple parts at once, I mean on this latest album in particular I hear the same track of his voice but I feel like it's there twice somehow - again, it's like he's singing in unison with himself. Maybe I'm crazy.

YorkeDaddy · 06-29-2015, 08:54 PM

No I definitely hear what you're talking about and it's something he uses all the time... but I've always thought it was just a subtle falsetto harmony. It could also be a technique where you have multiple vocal tracks that are exactly the same but you move one forward or back like a couple milliseconds to create very slight dissonance. Not sure which, kind of interesting now that I'm listening really closely to figure out what he's doing

06-29-2015, 11:53 AM	#11662 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Peter Brotzmann, Paal Nilssen-Love, Mats Gustafsson - The Fat is Gone Three of the best modern players in free jazz doing what they do best. Gustafsson's elephantine saxing and Brotzmann's squeaking/riffage are great, but Nilssen-Love steals the show on the drums. Mother***er is a damn machine. He makes most of the well known renowned drummers look like Ringo. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x Last edited by Frownland; 06-29-2015 at 12:34 PM.

06-29-2015, 12:36 PM	#11664 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Damn censorship. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-29-2015, 08:22 PM	#11666 (permalink)
Josef K A Jew on a motorbike! Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 800	I'm gonna be honest, I've been completely unable to get into that album. And I don't know a single other person who's heard it who doesn't like it, and it's not because it isn't accessible or whatever, but I just find it sort of mediocre. Like I really really wish he wouldn't do the thing where you hear his voice twice all the time - does that have a name or am I making this up? It's not even like there are multiple tracks of his voice, it's like I'm always hearing two of him singing in unison.