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Old 04-03-2008, 06:34 PM   #91 (permalink)
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again, i am not saying that non-innovative music is not good. the truth is, nothing more can be done sonically with the guitar/bass/drum format. every sound has been played, in one form or another. people can write new progressions, new lyrics, new melodies, but as a style it has all been done before
That's silly to start out with the assumption that the only innovative things that can be done are messing with timbres. If that is the case then musicians are no longer needed, only computer programmers. The truth is there will always be innovative artists playing normal instruments that have been around forever, that will bring you to tears with their unique playing and understanding. They ring genuine with their innovative takes based on the obnoxious amount of time creating.

Maybe nothing new can be done with current popular instruments, but considering that they have been around for hundreds to thousands of years and have spanned all over the globe without dying kind of destroys the argument that messing with timbres is superior. In that case Ianis Xinacus or whatever his name is would be a world hero.

Instruments are just that: instruments. They are just as inferior or superior as the person wielding it. Maybe, the chords and styles are the same or similar to what has been done the last hundreds and thousands of years...but once again, the fact that some progressions and styles repeat themselves says something about expectations in western music and what we like.

To assume music is simply playing chords or changing timbres neglects the majority of what goes into a performance. What about dynamics? Or harmonies? What about meters and mixed beats as found in afro carribean styles? I guarantee you haven't heard every melody mathematically available. What about rhythm and tempo? I guess none of these matter and there are no innovations left other than timbre and instrumentation. That kind of thinking speaks more about a lack of imagination then anything else.

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Old 04-03-2008, 06:50 PM   #92 (permalink)
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I just thought it might be an interesting topic. I don't actually think that music could ever actually die.
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:40 PM   #93 (permalink)
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So in other worlds you meant is music exhausted as of 2008? You feel as though no one is doing anything interesting or new anymore?
Someone needs to reinvent the guitar again?

It's all down to your taste and how much you apply yourself to finding new music. And being open to different styles/genres.
Experiment and think outside the square when it comes to finding new music. Maybe you havn't being heeding to your own signature enough recently ...PM me if you want to discuss new music and ways to find it.
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:41 PM   #94 (permalink)
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There are always new styles that haven't been invented yet. It's ridiculous to say otherwise.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:42 PM   #95 (permalink)
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again, GoodAnytime, you are not reading my posts.

1. every progression has not been played, every melody has not been written, every beat has not been played

2. stylistically, however, i feel that everything has been done



as for you ProggyMan, try to invent a style that no one has done. i'm betting you cannot. people have recorded tape loops for hours, people have recorded nature and chopped it up, people have dragged barbed wire across guitar frets, and these are the most avant-garde of things. are you trying to tell me that blues has not been done? are you trying to say someone will reinvent downtempo? it's not going to happen, these things have all been done
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:58 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Monotony: All the instruments play the same note with the vocalist screaming over it for the whole song. New musical style, right there.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:24 AM   #97 (permalink)
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again, GoodAnytime, you are not reading my posts.

1. every progression has not been played, every melody has not been written, every beat has not been played

2. stylistically, however, i feel that everything has been done



as for you ProggyMan, try to invent a style that no one has done. i'm betting you cannot. people have recorded tape loops for hours, people have recorded nature and chopped it up, people have dragged barbed wire across guitar frets, and these are the most avant-garde of things. are you trying to tell me that blues has not been done? are you trying to say someone will reinvent downtempo? it's not going to happen, these things have all been done
It would actually not be at all difficult to create a style with the guitar bass drum format. It might not SOUND very good, but it'd be a new style all the same.

You seriously sound like you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Go learn something about composition or whatever before opting to comment on the topic of possibilities.

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Old 04-04-2008, 05:23 AM   #98 (permalink)
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It would actually not be at all difficult to create a style with the guitar bass drum format. It might not SOUND very good, but it'd be a new style all the same.

You seriously sound like you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Go learn something about composition or whatever before opting to comment on the topic of possibilities.
..Before criticizing him please learn what YOU are talking about. Composition or whatever...? (music theory, or common sense)

Also the standard Drum Bass Guitar format has many more styles coming. Think back a little bit, they had never thought of a reggae song, or metal song, or many many other genres for that matter. Im sure people were saying the same thing then, and did not think many good sounding genres were yet to come. Keep an open mind kiddo.
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..Before criticizing him please learn what YOU are talking about. Composition or whatever...? (music theory, or common sense)

Also the standard Drum Bass Guitar format has many more styles coming. Think back a little bit, they had never thought of a reggae song, or metal song, or many many other genres for that matter. Im sure people were saying the same thing then, and did not think many good sounding genres were yet to come. Keep an open mind kiddo.
I could have said music and compositional theory and it is what I wrote before, though I edited it (as the evidence shows) because it sounded extremely pompous. Thank you very much.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:57 AM   #100 (permalink)
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i'm done trying to convince you guys. i'll be back when a new music style develops, aka never
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