An Infinite Number Of Things That Pisses Me Off About Music

jackhammer · 10-17-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

2 : The Music Industry

Taking the fun out of music since time began.

Ever since man first picked up an instrument there's been someone around trying to profit from it.

I could go off on a long rant about this but what would be the point? You all know what a bunch of self serving , manipulative , greedy , tasteless bunch of fucks with no morals these people are , exploiting everything you love for the sake of getting a few more dollars out of your pocket.

Let's face it , I bet you've all got your own hatred just building up inside you just from reading the title of this entry along.

So just this time i'll open this up to the forum and let you express just what you hate about these parasites.And when you've posted a few i'll let you know what No 1 is ........

This is one thing about music that rarely bother's me. Music and art itself will always be used for commercial purposes. Many good things will be ignored as capitalism extends its' hand but this is EXACTLY why I love music. I choose the bands I want to hear and the mainstream can just fuck off.

I don't do this to emphasise a non mainstream approach. I choose this because my choices and reasons for championing a band are entirely correct and not encumbent on the populace.

dac · 10-17-2008, 11:37 PM

who's job is it to decide that bands like paramore and maroon 5 are "good"? I'd like to meet this fellow and just have an honest 1 on 1 discussion with him and see how his brain works. And don't give me the "it's marketable" bs... people made NIRVANA marketable for christ's sake

DJ Phoenix · 10-18-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Hate it to, and what's worse is the people that watch it.

I have a few friends whose tastes are entirely from Much Music and MTV.

It looks something like this:

Paramore
T-Pain
Akon
Shaggy
Hedley
Maroon 5

Paramore-EXTREMELY ****ty(the band is a joke, and the guy who discovered them is an even BIGGER one).
T-Pain-**Garbage**(some of thee worst horse**** I've ever heard. Guy couldn't "rap" a sandwich)
Akon-See Above
Shaggy-See Above +2
Hedley-Who?
Maroon 5-Are they even still together as a band? they haven't been relevant in 5 years(and even then it was questionable).

I'm assuming "Hedley" is in a long list of bands who no one gives a **** about, who sing the same songs, and do the same type albums each year?: Hinder/Shinedown/3 Doors Down/Stain'd/Linkin Park/etc? Mindless pop drivel.

I'll pass. Paramore has to be one of the worst bands in the last 15 years. Music for kids? yeah, they're important!

15Steps · 10-18-2008, 02:20 AM

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~~The Unfan~~ · 10-18-2008, 05:48 AM

I have no problems with the music industry and I am glad it exists. Where there is entertainment there is business, and where there is business there is money, and where there is money I will surely follow.

WaspStar · 10-18-2008, 06:21 AM

Like everyone else, I hate the way record companies screw over both the artists and the fans in order to make a few extra bucks.

...but I think that the people who refuse to listen to "mainstream" music are worse. Ok, so don't buy XYZ album because it's on a major label...but to dismiss the band as "sellouts" simply because they signed to Columbia is downright idiotic.

Zarko · 10-18-2008, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar

Like everyone else, I hate the way record companies screw over both the artists and the fans in order to make a few extra bucks.

...but I think that the people who refuse to listen to "mainstream" music are worse. Ok, so don't buy XYZ album because it's on a major label...but to dismiss the band as "sellouts" simply because they signed to Columbia is downright idiotic.

Possibly number 1?

Alfred · 10-18-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ Phoenix

Paramore-EXTREMELY ****ty(the band is a joke, and the guy who discovered them is an even BIGGER one).
T-Pain-**Garbage**(some of thee worst horse**** I've ever heard. Guy couldn't "rap" a sandwich)
Akon-See Above
Shaggy-See Above +2
Hedley-Who?
Maroon 5-Are they even still together as a band? they haven't been relevant in 5 years(and even then it was questionable).

I'm assuming "Hedley" is in a long list of bands who no one gives a **** about, who sing the same songs, and do the same type albums each year?: Hinder/Shinedown/3 Doors Down/Stain'd/Linkin Park/etc? Mindless pop drivel.

I'll pass. Paramore has to be one of the worst bands in the last 15 years. Music for kids? yeah, they're important!

Nah, Hedley's more along the lines of Simple Plan and Faber Drive.

Minstrel · 10-18-2008, 10:12 AM

I'm glad the music industry existed from the '60s through the '90s. There's no other way the music of a guitar pop band from England like Suede would have ended up in my hands in California without a music industry putting their music out in wide release. Same goes for virtually every non-local band in the modern pop era.

Nowadays, I think the music industry is becoming increasingly less relevant, thanks to the internet. Web sites can easily serve many people, around the world. Web sites can easily function as repositories for new music, with voting systems and tagging systems to allow you to discover music (and for your favourite review sites to discover music). E-commerce makes it a snap for bands to do worldwide business. Clearly, this option currently makes far more sense for established bands, who already have the fame, than for new bands who haven't yet been marketed to hell and back. But I can definitely see a near future where the web-based infrastructure of band websites, repository websites and review websites make it quite possible for even new indie bands to get their music heard.

And all in a much more streamlined, direct manner that removes a corporate "industry" from between the band and the customers (with a commensurate drop in prices of music).

mr dave · 10-18-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Nah, Hedley's more along the lines of Simple Plan and Faber Drive.

hedley is a perfect modern example of the failings of the canadian content laws governed by the CRTC (canadian radio telecommunications commission). basically every broadcaster who wants to keep a license in canada has to broadcast X amount of canadian content per hour or face fines / suspensions.

the frontman for hedley was canadian idol finalist a few years ago which pretty much guaranteed some airplay and a place in the market. like most idol finalists it should have been a one hit wonder, but they're obviously willing to play the game, and so long as they do broadcasters will keep playing their crap as an easy way to hitting their cancon targets.

10-17-2008, 11:37 PM	#1342 (permalink)
dac MB's Biggest Fanboy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land Posts: 2,852	who's job is it to decide that bands like paramore and maroon 5 are "good"? I'd like to meet this fellow and just have an honest 1 on 1 discussion with him and see how his brain works. And don't give me the "it's marketable" bs... people made NIRVANA marketable for christ's sake __________________

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10-18-2008, 06:21 AM	#1346 (permalink)
WaspStar Back to mono Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 509	Like everyone else, I hate the way record companies screw over both the artists and the fans in order to make a few extra bucks. ...but I think that the people who refuse to listen to "mainstream" music are worse. Ok, so don't buy XYZ album because it's on a major label...but to dismiss the band as "sellouts" simply because they signed to Columbia is downright idiotic. __________________ "This sure doesn't look like 'Crazy Ernie's Amazing Emporium of Total Bargain Madness!'"

10-18-2008, 10:12 AM	#1349 (permalink)
Minstrel Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 436	I'm glad the music industry existed from the '60s through the '90s. There's no other way the music of a guitar pop band from England like Suede would have ended up in my hands in California without a music industry putting their music out in wide release. Same goes for virtually every non-local band in the modern pop era. Nowadays, I think the music industry is becoming increasingly less relevant, thanks to the internet. Web sites can easily serve many people, around the world. Web sites can easily function as repositories for new music, with voting systems and tagging systems to allow you to discover music (and for your favourite review sites to discover music). E-commerce makes it a snap for bands to do worldwide business. Clearly, this option currently makes far more sense for established bands, who already have the fame, than for new bands who haven't yet been marketed to hell and back. But I can definitely see a near future where the web-based infrastructure of band websites, repository websites and review websites make it quite possible for even new indie bands to get their music heard. And all in a much more streamlined, direct manner that removes a corporate "industry" from between the band and the customers (with a commensurate drop in prices of music). __________________ "Blow your tuneless trumpet, the choice is yours / We don't want the glamour, the pomp and the drums / The Dublin messiah scattering crumbs"

10-18-2008, 05:48 AM	#1345 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	I have no problems with the music industry and I am glad it exists. Where there is entertainment there is business, and where there is business there is money, and where there is money I will surely follow.