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Strummer521 · 10-20-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by swim

Tickley Feather-Self Titled
It has this kind of beyond lo-fi sound that Ariel Pink uses that I really don't like. I mean I like lo-fi because it sounds sincere, authentic and real. So this severe under production has the same affect on me as over production. It's just kind of gross. As far as musical content goes. It's a pretty solid album.

I think Ariel Pink is pretty sincere. He's trying to recreate something he loves and his music is nostalgic to the bone. He's said that he's trying to use cassette as a instrument just as much as a medium; its a reaction to the fact that just about anyone can make a pristine album these days and also a way of creating a special type of texture and atmosphere.

I can understand not liking it, but to say he is less sincere than, say, Pavement or Sebadoh, I think, is misguided. He justs dresses his music in different clothing than those guys do. Listen to "Immune to Emotion"; lyrically, it sounds like it could have been written by Lou Barlow.

swim · 10-20-2008, 06:26 PM

I didn't mean sincere to have anything to do with intentions. I mean I'm sure he wouldn't do that style if it wasn't something he liked. I meant sincere like true to the real sound. It's a little bit too faded, a little too hissy and it comes of with this fake filmy feeling that I just don't like. It's not a believable live real sound which is what I always thought lofi was about. I can see how someone could like it. It's cool that someone went down that avenue but I just don't like it is all.

ProggyMan · 10-20-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

96. Edan:
Primitive Plus

For those of you who don't think white kids can rap, listen to this. The production and beats are excellent and the lyrics are silly as they are brilliant.

I love Beauty and The Beat, don't have this.

swim · 10-21-2008, 01:31 PM

Edan-Primitive Plus
I don't have a good enough rap base to objectively judge this album but I know I really like it.

Strummer521 · 10-21-2008, 08:40 PM

That's a really interesting point, about lo-fi being based around achieving a "live sound" in many cases. I'd never thought of it that way...but it's probably true for some bands (I'm sure you could tell me of a few who definitely had this as a primary motive). I always saw lo-fi as more an act of near-desperate ambition. The artist had this music he wanted to share with the world so urgently that he couldn't wait until he had the means to record it "properly." Anyway...I guess Ariel Pink probably wouldn't classify himself within the classic lo-fi contingency, because he's trying so hard to achieve a very specific sound, which is kind of the opposite of the lo-fi methodology. His music might sound underproduced, but really it's been produced to an extreme. Likewise...I can see why someone wouldn't like his music (even I get tired sometimes of turning up his records more than any other just to hear them properly, because his songs are so damp with saturation).

Thanks for responding so clearly and openly. It's about time this forum got down to documenting a near-academic obsession with pop music...everyone needs to post with your level of consistency and passion.

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Originally Posted by swim

I didn't mean sincere to have anything to do with intentions. I mean I'm sure he wouldn't do that style if it wasn't something he liked. I meant sincere like true to the real sound. It's a little bit too faded, a little too hissy and it comes of with this fake filmy feeling that I just don't like. It's not a believable live real sound which is what I always thought lofi was about. I can see how someone could like it. It's cool that someone went down that avenue but I just don't like it is all.

Trauma · 10-21-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

96. Edan:
Primitive Plus

This is interesting.
Thanks.

swim · 10-24-2008, 01:31 PM

moar

Rage Against the Machine · 10-28-2008, 08:55 PM

Please sir, can I have some more?

Also, thank you for introducing me to Squarepusher. Tetra-Sync is absolutely brilliant.

10-20-2008, 06:26 PM	#32 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	I didn't mean sincere to have anything to do with intentions. I mean I'm sure he wouldn't do that style if it wasn't something he liked. I meant sincere like true to the real sound. It's a little bit too faded, a little too hissy and it comes of with this fake filmy feeling that I just don't like. It's not a believable live real sound which is what I always thought lofi was about. I can see how someone could like it. It's cool that someone went down that avenue but I just don't like it is all. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

10-21-2008, 01:31 PM	#34 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	Edan-Primitive Plus I don't have a good enough rap base to objectively judge this album but I know I really like it. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

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swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	moar __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

10-28-2008, 08:55 PM	#38 (permalink)
Rage Against the Machine Jewish Cowboy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 632	Please sir, can I have some more? Also, thank you for introducing me to Squarepusher. Tetra-Sync is absolutely brilliant.