I didn't know where to put this, but I need music help. (alternative, dance)

**Janszoon** · 11-25-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonace

Yeah man. Pop is nothing to be ashamed about, these top 40 stations and Britney Spears and boy bands etc. are just one small part of the world of pop music.

Check out the beatles for some great pop.

Or the Clash for that matter.

Comus · 11-25-2008, 01:44 PM

Definitely check out the Clash, all brilliant stuff, you can't go wrong.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 11-25-2008, 01:46 PM

As for Sum 41... I can't really say because I don't listen to their music. But if you like it then it doesn't really matter if they're pop-punk or punk or not.

Here's a quote from Wikipedia you might find useful:

"Most [Sum 41] fans and critics agree that Half Hour of Power and All Killer No Filler were purely pop punk, but Does This Look Infected? started moving toward heavier styles, such as alternative rock and alternative metal,[45] with Chuck being mostly alternative metal. "

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 11-25-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Lodge

right, well pop is really just popular shortened. like top 40 radio hits.

In some senses, personally I've always liked to think of it as a genre as well.

**Janszoon** · 11-25-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Lodge

There's no need to take offense to the classification of "pop-punk". I mean, it really only means popular punk.

I think there's little more to it than that. There are pop-punk bands out there who are not well known. It's not about the fact that the band is popular, it's about the fact that they do have a certain sound. It's a sound based on the mainstays of pop music: hooks, catchy choruses, tight instrumentation, etc.

I mean, listen to how poppy this Blink 182 songs is:

Veronica Lodge · 11-25-2008, 01:57 PM

I would agree that pop is a musical genre, yes.

But pop means POPULAR. That is the root of the word.

Yes?

Veronica Lodge · 11-25-2008, 01:57 PM

That is the only point I'm trying to get across.

Tobias · 11-25-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonace

Yeah man. Pop is nothing to be ashamed about, these top 40 stations and Britney Spears and boy bands etc. are just one small part of the world of pop music.

Check out the beatles for some great pop.

I like the beatles, and honest to god, some of those boy bands, SOME songs, not all. lol they are my guilty pleasure, but recently I found some "punk" versions of those songs I liked so now I don't feel guilty about it

**Janszoon** · 11-25-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Veronica Lodge

I would agree that pop is a musical genre, yes.

But pop means POPULAR. That is the root of the word.

Yes?

Yes. But as a genre tag it means "in the style that is popular" not "this band is popular".

Wikipedia has a good description of pop music, "Pop music as a genre features a noticeable rhythmic element, melodies and hooks, a mainstream style and conventional structure."

4ZZZ · 11-25-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Wikipedia has a good description of pop music, "Pop music as a genre features a noticeable rhythmic element, melodies and hooks, a mainstream style and conventional structure."

I like that.

IMO the term has changed over the years. When I was a youngster (in the very dawn of time) the connotations of Pop were of the popular and mainstream but there was a perceptive change in the 70's and the Punk / New Wave paved the way somewhat. Certain "punk" bands, say XTC for example began to put out what where described as Pop songs, catchy hooks and melodies etc etc.
This change may have happened earlier but I have no earlier memory of it.

In the end I have no issue with genre classification as I think that that at least attempts to help the individual understand as to what they are listening to.

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11-25-2008, 01:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	As for Sum 41... I can't really say because I don't listen to their music. But if you like it then it doesn't really matter if they're pop-punk or punk or not. Here's a quote from Wikipedia you might find useful: "Most [Sum 41] fans and critics agree that Half Hour of Power and All Killer No Filler were purely pop punk, but Does This Look Infected? started moving toward heavier styles, such as alternative rock and alternative metal,[45] with Chuck being mostly alternative metal. "