Music Banter Hall of Fame: Induction Thread 3 (ballad, single, album)

[Roemilca]

Frank Zappa: Yes, genius, one of my favorite artists of all time.
The Clash: Yes, they're classic, you can't say no to british punk rock!
Bob Dylan: Yes, definitely.
Pink Floyd: Seeing as they're one of my most played on last.fm, and I'm a fan, do you even have to see the word yes in this post? Good, because I just posted it.
Big Black: No, only because I've never heard them.
Tom Waits: No, never heard him/them either.
The Smiths: Yes. Just because.
Chuck Berry: No, because one way or anything he's going to find his way into the next round.

[WWWP]

There's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said.

Frank Zappa: Yes.
The Clash: Yes.
Bob Dylan: YES.
Pink Floyd: Yes.
Big Black: No.
Tom Waits: Yes.
The Smiths: Yes.
Chuck Berry: Nah.

[lucifer_sam]

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Thats a pretty good feat for two reasons

1. Jersey Girl isn't on Rain Dogs.

2. Its originally a Waits song that the boss co-opted.

I wanna know what sounds like "leftover springsteen" by the way.

my bad, but there ARE others on Rain Dogs that give me that eerie 'this sounds a bit too much like Springsteen' for my taste. towards the end of the album it sort of devolves into this massive pit that it really doesn't climb out of until the very end. to me, there's just too huge a gap between the great material on that album (Anywhere I Lay My Head is perfect) and the bad (Hang Down Your Head, Blind Love, Downtown Train).

if you don't get that impression i don't know what to tell you but i can certainly echo boobs' sentiment -- there's stuff that Waits has written that sounds like it's been regurgitated by the Boss. and not in a good way.

[SceneSalsa]

I'm surprised by all the no votes for Chuck Berry.

He sure as hell gets my vote, as do Bob Dylan and The Clash.

Do I really need to explain why? C'mon, it's Chuck Berry, The Clash, and Bob Mother****ing Dylan. 'Nuff said.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Thats a pretty good feat for two reasons

1. Jersey Girl isn't on Rain Dogs.

2. Its originally a Waits song that the boss co-opted.

I wanna know what sounds like "leftover springsteen" by the way.

Hang Down Your Head and Downtown Train.

Those are the songs from Rain Dogs I could do without.

It's still one of my favorite albums ever, don't get me wrong.

[Zarko]

Rough counting...

You need 2/3rds of total votes right?

Zappa - 22 to 4 (Definite yes)
Clash - 22 to 4 (Definite yes)
Dylan - 23 to 3 (Definite yes)
Floyd - 26 to 3 (Definite yes)
Black - 9 to 8 (Need 7 more yes votes without a no)
Waits - 20 to 5 (Definite yes)
Smiths - 18 to 11 (Need 4 more yes votes to crack the 66% mark without a no)
Berry - 7 to 17 (Definite no)

I don't really know (Nor care) if they are entirely accurate, but only one and a half days left til voting ends (Based on the first post) as its been open for 9 days already.

I added The Cat's votes because he has cracked the 100 posts...
Shame more people don't listen to BB.

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Hang Down Your Head and Downtown Train.

Those are the songs from Rain Dogs I could do without.

It's still one of my favorite albums ever, don't get me wrong.

Well I'm not going to debate Downtown Train because I beleive it falls into that catagory of "too popular to accuratly review."

Hand Down your Head I don't feel incredibly strongly about, but I would say if it were on any other album, it would likely be a stronger track.

Though I don't know how either sounds like

a. Springsteen

b. Leftover Springsteen (keeping in mind that that is your charge.)

c. not good.

I guess the narrative style looks like the Boss, and thats fair, but downtown train is, I dare say, more versely worded than most springsteen tracks save for maybe Thunder road.

Outside another yellow moon
punched a hole in the nighttime mist
I climb through the window and down the street
I'm shining like a new dime
the downtown trains are full, full with all them Brooklyn girls
they try so hard to break out of their little worlds

You wave your hand and they scatter like crows
they have nothing that will ever capture your heart
theyr'e just thorns without the rose
be careful of them in the dark
oh if I was the one
you chose to be your only one
oh baby can't you hear me now

I guess the idea of the city and lost romance is Boss-esque, but you know I'm going to think its outlandish blasphemy to called it "warmed over springsteen"

Originally Posted by Comus

the lack of interest in this, this time around is rather astonishing.

Whatever dude, you're rather astonishing.

[boo boo]

I'm talking about the actual sound of the song too, it sounds like a Springstein song (and IMO not a terribly good one), only with even raspier vocals.

I like Time, but other than that I just don't like his ballads, they don't go very well with his other songs at all.

[TheBig3]

on that album you don't like the ballads, or in general? Because the stuff on Mule Variations was solid stuff.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by boo boo

I'm talking about the actual sound of the song too, it sounds like a Springstein song (and IMO not a terribly good one), only with even raspier vocals.

I like Time, but other than that I just don't like his ballads, they don't go very well with his other songs at all.

I'm a huge Tom Waits fan, but I agree his ballads can be hit-or-miss. I don't mind the ballads on Rain Dogs, though I there's a couple I wouldn't miss if they were gone, but some of the ballads on, for example, Heartattack and Vine are just fucking tedious.