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mr dave

exactly. why are so many people here so concerned about what Simon Cowell does and the tripe he presents to the public?

considered from the perspective of food it makes music fan behaviour seem incredibly absurd. if someone is eating a Big Mac, do you gripe about the horrid nutritional content to everyone within earshot? do you confront the person and belittle their tastes because they could buy a steak at the butcher shop?

of course not. (unless they're eating it on the bus / subway and stinking up a small space)

but flip it over to music, WAAAHHHHHH someone is listening to disposable pop!!! no one should listen to that garbage! we need to send a message!!!

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I definetly know what you're saying. I just think other artists other than Xfactor winners should get the chance of a number one. It's almost guaranteed that Xfactor will hold the xmas number one every year, which is good for the new artist, but it ruins things for other people .

edit: not that I listen to much pop, I just feel that there should be chance for other great artists to get the title.

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mr dave

i have to assume i'm missing something about this Xfactor thing then (being that i'm in Canada and don't pay attention to UK charts haha) does it run differently than most other charts like Billboard's Top40?

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Some of those that work x-factors are the same that burn crosses.

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I don't give a **** either, but then again, even with that in mind, x-factor is IMPOSSIBLE to ignore. Literally. You could wall yourself in your house with a hose and a crate of supernoodles, kettle at the ready with a vat of coca cola, and you would STILL somehow find out what was going on on x-factor. Its THAT bloody annoying.

With that in mind, can you understand why some of us are jumping at the chance to knock it around a little for the sake of making a point? The only reason these crappy singles are getting anywhere is because they have what is basically the worlds biggest ad campaign behind them. An ad campaign which makes money on its own no less, which then releases a single which makes even MORE money and gives us yet ANOTHER mediocre celebrity C-Lister to show up everywhere for the next year or two.

And no it won't make the industry as a whole sit up and take notice of how pissed off a lot of fans are at the mickey mouse operation the UK business has become, but god damn its better than nothing.


And Dave - refer to my above comment. Your mcdonalds analogy isn't quite valid. I for one don't care if people listen to pop music or not, i like a lot of pop acts to be honest, but its not a case of 'someone sitting there eating a big mac' as if its an unobtrusive and ignorable thing.

Its a case of twenty people sat around you, ALL eating big macs, while talking about eating big macs, then when they've finished eating, they turn around to discuss how that big mac compared to the one they ate five minutes earlier, at length and in great insufferable detail, while STILL somehow managing to not even touch on one aspect of the taste or nutrition, judging their big mac solely on how hilarious it looked or how pristine perfect it was in its portrayal of big macness. I have honestly TRIED to avoid knowing anything about x-factor this year. I have still failed because people INSIST on discussing it with me. They will ask me if I've seen it and when I say no they WILL TELL ME ABOUT IT.

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Who's dictating what you get to hear? Is it the music industries duty to provide you with quality songs. Are they some kind of public service, and they need to be held accountably?..what a crock of ****.

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Read the above for an explanation of exactly why this phenomena pisses people off man. It is absolutely 100% inescapable. I haven't watched TV regularly in 5 years, my TV at home isn't even plugged in and I do all of my show watching through downloads and DVDs. I could not possibly be further removed from X-Factor unless I were to cut off contact with everyone I know.

Despite this, facebook, family, friends, and even random strangers on trains, or taxi drivers, all conspire to ENSURE that every single week, WITHOUT FAIL, I know what has just happened on the X-Factor. Then, without fail, the X-Factor single, another pedestrian, dull, boring cover of another far more interesting classic song to which Simon Cowell owns the rights, is christmas number one, and it becomes nigh on impossible to escape its musical butchery if placed within earshot of a radio for more than ten minutes.

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From twitter: timminchin Rage Against the Machine campaign is a bit like going, "Stop McDonald's! Buy Burger King!" Hehe. Mc**** you I won't do what you tell me.

The thing is, it's not that X-factor is 'disposable pop'. I wouldn't have a problem with that. If kids want to buy N-Dubz or whatever, that's up to them. X-factor is different. It is weeks of marketing on an irritating reality tv show where the winner - usually a nice kid with a musical-style voice - will, without fail, get to number one in the charts with their bland cover of someone else's ballad. It's not about the songs. It's about the depressing inevitability.

And for whoever said it's not like you're forced to listen to it - maybe you get to live your life with your headphones in listening to your own personal playlist, but for everyone else who has to put up with the radio on at work, in a taxi, in a shop, including as someone else said everybody going on and on about the stupid programme for weeks, it gets annoying.