Am I the only one who doesn't like Nirvana...

Key · 01-07-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Jam

But your perspective on music IS misguided. I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it.

Dude you're missing something, as is anyone else hating on Nirvana.

They WERE among the greatest bands of all time, there is no question of that.

It's fine if you don't like it, but that has nothing to do with Nirvana's place in the scheme of it all.

You're right, they weren't the most musically "talented" of any bunch. No one is now or has ever claimed that, least of all the band themselves...and "talent" is by far the most expendable attribute to anything having to do with rock n' roll. If you don't know that then you have some growing up to do.

After 20+ years of music historians, rock critics and legions of fans that continue to sprout up with their OWN teenage angst and middle finger to the world around them regarding this band, I'm sorry guy, but you're really NOT the one who has suddenly unveiled the "folly" of Nirvana and has just now revealed to the world that they weren't really that cool.

They were (and are) that cool. You just have a crappy taste in music and think that hair bands were better.

"Ain't lookin' for NUUUTHIN'...BUT A GOOOD TIME! How CAN I...blah blah"

Seriously man you think that horse**** was better?

Whatever.

-Ghost Jam

Ghost Jam · 01-07-2013, 11:33 AM

What on Earth are you talking about? Of course there is a question of whether or not a band is one of "the greatest bands of all time". Any band can be the best or the worst depending on subjective musical tastes. If you think that there is some objective taste in music that is superior to all others, then you need to "grow up".

In that particular context, I'm not talking about subjective musical tastes. I'm talking about a general consensus regarding the impact, success, influence, popularity, etc.

In that regard there just is no argument. Nirvana was one of the greatest bands of all time.

There are plenty of artists that I don't particularly like very much, but I don't make attempts to strip them of what they deserve just because of that.

Not unless you're King Crimson, or someone who likes King Crimson or Genesis or whoever. I'm not the biggest prog fan by any means, but that doesn't mean that my subjective opinion of not particularly caring about a band's musical abilities should have any bearing on anyone else's opinion.

I never said talent wasn't important, or even necessary to a lot of bands. I hold a lot of respect for technical talent. I just said that talent is the most expendable attribute to rock music, which it is. Especially in contrast with classical or jazz music, which I adore.

I love King Crimson.

Sure they were influential, but what does that have to do with whether or not I should like them? If they don't appeal to me, then they don't appeal to me. It is what it is. It doesn't invalidate my own opinion any more than if I did like them. And I do like Nirvana BTW.

The OP wasn't merely addressing his opinion. He was attempting to discredit Nirvana for everything that they were. That has nothing to do with an opinion.

Come on. You just told someone else to grow up, so how can you justify this childish statement? I'm not someone who is opposed to having a heated debate with someone over music, but your arrogant attitude is ridiculous.

I get that all the time.

-Arrogant Ghost Jam

Franco Pepe Kalle · 01-07-2013, 05:40 PM

Ghost Jam, you are overreacting. Your statements are redicilous. You need to understand that not everyone cares for Nirvana just like not everyone cares for Tupac or Michael Jackson or even BOB MARLEY. Just being a smarty pants and understand and that not everyone cares for your band NIRVANA. I don't say this because I hate this band but I am being honest.

Like myself like I said, there are much better rock bands than Nirvana but that is my view. Not everyone agrees with that but I stand by that.

Ghost, not everyone sees it your way. I know you are not the only delusional Nirvana fan who wants to people to see it your way.

Ghost Jam, just accept that not everyone sees it your way. Get over it. PLEASE.

Key · 01-07-2013, 05:48 PM

Yeah Ghost Jam, Get over it PLEASE Ghost Jam. Ghost Jam, Nirvana, fan, jam, Ghost. Ghost jam.

Rjinn · 01-07-2013, 05:59 PM

I love how he's "overreacting" yet getting jumped on by a bunch of people.

Necromancer · 01-07-2013, 09:49 PM

Go Ghost Jam!

Neapolitan · 01-07-2013, 11:27 PM

Ghost Jam · 01-09-2013, 12:52 AM

YEah dude said he could name like, 10 hairbands that had better lyricists than Nirvana.

If anyone expected anything less than the response I gave that big hunk of steamer than I don't know what the **** you're listening to.

Dude had yet to name a single one of his "at least 10" better hairband lyricists.

No WAY am I gonna let that kind of horse**** slide, as long as I'm a member around here.

Get me banned or whatever. But when some child comes along and starts yammering on about how he can think of 10 hairbands blah blah blah...yeah, I'm gonna say ****.

-Ghost Jam

Ghost Jam · 01-09-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

Ghost Jam, you are overreacting. Your statements are redicilous. You need to understand that not everyone cares for Nirvana just like not everyone cares for Tupac or Michael Jackson or even BOB MARLEY. Just being a smarty pants and understand and that not everyone cares for your band NIRVANA. I don't say this because I hate this band but I am being honest.

Like myself like I said, there are much better rock bands than Nirvana but that is my view. Not everyone agrees with that but I stand by that.

Ghost, not everyone sees it your way. I know you are not the only delusional Nirvana fan who wants to people to see it your way.

Ghost Jam, just accept that not everyone sees it your way. Get over it. PLEASE.

Tupac, Michael Jackson and Bob Marley are all awesome. I'd come to any of their defenses just as I have Nirvana.

If you're someone that wants to take a weird **** on any of those artists,as the OP of this thread has, then yeah, I'm gonna come to their defense.

What are you talking about?

-Ghost Jam

bucsko91daniel · 01-09-2013, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pursuingchange

Sure, they were a good band, but why do they have to be everyone's favorite? I have some very strong opinions abouts this whole issue, but I will wait and get other people's opinions before I go into detail about them.

Nirvana was never my favorite band, but they did have great songs. Your strong opinions may stem from the fact that their music's become too mainstream to the point of being annoyingly ubiquitous.

Excessive mainstream exposure notwithstanding, I think they're a good band.

01-07-2013, 05:40 PM	#43 (permalink)
Franco Pepe Kalle Mwana Nzala Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Shakopee, Minnesota Posts: 627	Ghost Jam, you are overreacting. Your statements are redicilous. You need to understand that not everyone cares for Nirvana just like not everyone cares for Tupac or Michael Jackson or even BOB MARLEY. Just being a smarty pants and understand and that not everyone cares for your band NIRVANA. I don't say this because I hate this band but I am being honest. Like myself like I said, there are much better rock bands than Nirvana but that is my view. Not everyone agrees with that but I stand by that. Ghost, not everyone sees it your way. I know you are not the only delusional Nirvana fan who wants to people to see it your way. Ghost Jam, just accept that not everyone sees it your way. Get over it. PLEASE. __________________ The problem with Franco Pepe Kalle is that he is a unpredictable character. There is surprising info about this man. You think he only likes Franco and Pepe Kalle but when you find out that he hears other artists, you are shock. Girls are the sexy thing that God created. Important to notice FPK.

01-07-2013, 05:59 PM	#45 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	I love how he's "overreacting" yet getting jumped on by a bunch of people. __________________ last.fm Last edited by Rjinn; 01-07-2013 at 06:09 PM.

01-07-2013, 11:33 AM	#42 (permalink)
Ghost Jam Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 107	What on Earth are you talking about? Of course there is a question of whether or not a band is one of "the greatest bands of all time". Any band can be the best or the worst depending on subjective musical tastes. If you think that there is some objective taste in music that is superior to all others, then you need to "grow up". In that particular context, I'm not talking about subjective musical tastes. I'm talking about a general consensus regarding the impact, success, influence, popularity, etc. In that regard there just is no argument. Nirvana was one of the greatest bands of all time. There are plenty of artists that I don't particularly like very much, but I don't make attempts to strip them of what they deserve just because of that. Not unless you're King Crimson, or someone who likes King Crimson or Genesis or whoever. I'm not the biggest prog fan by any means, but that doesn't mean that my subjective opinion of not particularly caring about a band's musical abilities should have any bearing on anyone else's opinion. I never said talent wasn't important, or even necessary to a lot of bands. I hold a lot of respect for technical talent. I just said that talent is the most expendable attribute to rock music, which it is. Especially in contrast with classical or jazz music, which I adore. I love King Crimson. Sure they were influential, but what does that have to do with whether or not I should like them? If they don't appeal to me, then they don't appeal to me. It is what it is. It doesn't invalidate my own opinion any more than if I did like them. And I do like Nirvana BTW. The OP wasn't merely addressing his opinion. He was attempting to discredit Nirvana for everything that they were. That has nothing to do with an opinion. Come on. You just told someone else to grow up, so how can you justify this childish statement? I'm not someone who is opposed to having a heated debate with someone over music, but your arrogant attitude is ridiculous. I get that all the time. -Arrogant Ghost Jam

01-07-2013, 05:48 PM	#44 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Yeah Ghost Jam, Get over it PLEASE Ghost Jam. Ghost Jam, Nirvana, fan, jam, Ghost. Ghost jam.

01-07-2013, 09:49 PM	#46 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Go Ghost Jam!

01-09-2013, 12:52 AM	#48 (permalink)
Ghost Jam Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 107	YEah dude said he could name like, 10 hairbands that had better lyricists than Nirvana. If anyone expected anything less than the response I gave that big hunk of steamer than I don't know what the ** you're listening to. Dude had yet to name a single one of his "at least 10" better hairband lyricists. No WAY am I gonna let that kind of horse slide, as long as I'm a member around here. Get me banned or whatever. But when some child comes along and starts yammering on about how he can think of 10 hairbands blah blah blah...yeah, I'm gonna say **. -Ghost Jam