FRED HALE SR.

I don't recall ever saying my opinion was superior? I merely said that because you said I had the audacity to claim that JT was as good vocally as MJ was. Being that I have studied my whole life it is relevant to the discussion of the vocal talent of either person. I have not said one thing that was snobbish its all relative to the discussion. I think perhaps you should invest as much time in to reading the responses as you have in replying. But either way its just pop music and nothing to get excited over in the big picture. Its dance music created for party atmosphere, nothing to argue merit over in the long run. You like Michael Jackson I get it.

Paul Smeenus

Personally I would take the little purple fucker over MJ any day of the year. I didn't personally care for MJ even in his zenith.

Just speaking for myself, with no disrespect at all for MJ or his fans.

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Dr_Rez

Not metal enough for you paul

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FRED HALE SR.

+1. There aren't very many people in the music industry on his scale that have his kind of talent. I bet he does his own choreography also.

Paul Smeenus

Actually I'm more of a proghead

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Soulflower

Those are not good analogies to use as other examples. I was specifically talking about MUSIC and not areas outside of music.

That poster brought up their training in classical vocals so their opinion could seem more intelligent.

This conversation has NOTHING to do with classical music or classical vocals. So why is it relevant that he has classical vocal training when we are talking about Michael Jackson and Justin Timberlake?

Why do I need to know that?

He brought that up to justify his opinion which is why I feel he said that to make his opinion seem superior.

I know alot of musicians who are very snobbish because they feel since they are musicians or took a music history class they have better music perspectives and I disagree. Having music education can make one more knowledgable in articulating certain aspects of music but that doesnt mean that their opinion is FACT especially if its based on subjective reasonings.

I know people who are not musicians or trained in music and they have really insightful music perspectives because of the wide range of music they listen too. In other words, you can still be trained in music and still make irrational opinions. I think it depends on the person in how they used their training or exposure to different kinds of music.

I thought GuitarBiz made an EXCELLENT post (musician or not).

Soulflower

Im cool with that lol

Prince is AMAZING!! He is one of my favorite artists.

However, there are some areas even MJ beats Prince in (talent wise) but if that is your preference I can dig it

djchameleon

I think the point that real was trying to make is that this wasn't a conversation where we were discussing the technicalities behind someone's range etc. dealing with vocals it was more of a discussion about the artist in general which is subjective and everyone should be able to have their own opinion on that regardless of their educational level.

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Dr_Rez

Maybe I came in a little late in this, didn't read all the previous posts. I thought you were talking about someones opinion regarding what they had studied. Which is why what you said puzzled me so much.

Do you agree though that someone who has a college degree for instance in classical music is probably more qualified to speak on the subject of classical music because of that degree or training? Or someone who has studied and played guitar for years opinion on a guitar matter over the moajority of people who have no real experience with the instrument?

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FRED HALE SR.

Actually she mentioned that MJ had better tone and range then Timberlake, which I disagreed with. That is a discussion based on technical ability, unless range and tone have nothing to do with technical ability. We discussed other stuff in general about them and it remained civil. I never stifled anyones opinions either that is nonsense.