Bands that lost you to change

Justthefacts · 09-05-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

A. Silversun Pickups or B. Smashing Pumpkins?

I'd imagine Smashing Pumpkins, but same goes for Silversun Pickups. Their first two outings are a pair of great shoegaze records but they fell off after that unfortunately. Still a great band nonetheless.

Blank. · 09-05-2016, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

I was comparing their fans to juggalos, and I call it pandering because they get progressively more melodic/radio friendly as they went on, presumably for their young fan base.

I would agree with that, except that I have met them before, and they don't come across like they would do that purely for money. I mean Paul Gray said he was happy they went in the melodic direction cause it allowed room for more musical exploration.

**Frownland** · 09-05-2016, 08:21 PM

Nobody ever said that being a cheesy sellout isn't something you could have fun with.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 09-05-2016, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

I would agree with that, except that I have met them before, and they don't come across like they would do that purely for money. I mean Paul Gray said he was happy they went in the melodic direction cause it allowed room for more musical exploration.

I don't think it was selling out, it was just giving their fan base what they wanted instead of taking musical risks in the direction that would have benefited them more, imo. If they were to explore the same sound that made their debut and Iowa so enjoyable, I strongly feel they wouldn't be one of the most hated bands in metal. But, instead they gave us a bunch of melodic bull**** that I don't care about.

Lisnaholic · 09-09-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Bowie recovered amazingly well though at some point. Actually at several points in his career. Don't tell me you never checked out any later stuff.

Following up on Fripp and Eno, I listened to Low and Heroes last month, but apart from that I´m afraid the Bowie singles have been enough for me. They suggest that none of his later music or self-inventions match the persona of a troubled young man searching for love as a space-age rock star. IMO the lyrics became too cryptic, and the music never recovered from the loss of Mick Ronson's guitar, but if you have a fave from his later albums, I'll give it a shot, grindy.

galt54 · 09-09-2016, 07:50 PM

I was a really big fan of Blue Öyster Cult during their black and white period - up until and including the 1975 live double album. But when 1976´s Agents Fortune album appeares I was mightily dissappointed. I lost my interest in the band´s new, pop-style music. Although I continued to listen to their albums from the "golden age" of 1972-1975. And I continued to purchase each new BÖC album partly out of desperate hope for a renaissance in their music and partly just because of my fond memories of the once great band.

BÖC were awesome as a hard rock/heavy metal band

. But, in IMO they sucked as a pop band

.

grindy · 09-10-2016, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Following up on Fripp and Eno, I listened to Low and Heroes last month, but apart from that I´m afraid the Bowie singles have been enough for me. They suggest that none of his later music or self-inventions match the persona of a troubled young man searching for love as a space-age rock star. IMO the lyrics became too cryptic, and the music never recovered from the loss of Mick Ronson's guitar, but if you have a fave from his later albums, I'll give it a shot, grindy.

I think the Berlin albums and Station To Station are easily as good as his earlier stuff.
And did you hear Blackstar? In this case the hype was justified. Amazing album. I also really like Outside and Scary Monsters, although those albums are just a bit less amazing.

Lisnaholic · 09-12-2016, 05:19 AM

^ Well, you're right; from what I've heard so far, Blackstar is something special. I really like the sombre sound and the horns. Given how the release is so linked to the news of his death, the sinister videos that go with are very striking too. Thanks for the rec.

Another artist whose sound changed repeatedly is Beefheart. Apart from his vocals, it's difficult to see much similarity between the consecutive albums Safe As Milk/Strictly Personal/ Trout Mask. But I was happy to go with the changes - until the descent to Bluejeans and Moonbeams that is!

Psy-Fi · 09-12-2016, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by galt54

I was a really big fan of Blue Öyster Cult during their black and white period - up until and including the 1975 live double album. But when 1976´s Agents Fortune album appeares I was mightily dissappointed. I lost my interest in the band´s new, pop-style music. Although I continued to listen to their albums from the "golden age" of 1972-1975. And I continued to purchase each new BÖC album partly out of desperate hope for a renaissance in their music and partly just because of my fond memories of the once great band.

BÖC were awesome as a hard rock/heavy metal band

. But, in IMO they sucked as a pop band

.

I also started to lose interest in them after their Agents of Fortune album. That album has a few interesting songs but for the most part it was too much of a departure from their earlier sound for me. I got the same impression from their Spectres album, released the following year. Never bothered with any of their subsequent albums after that.

09-05-2016, 08:21 PM	#43 (permalink)
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09-09-2016, 07:50 PM	#46 (permalink)
galt54 Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: A suburb of Stockholm, Sweden. Posts: 135	Blue Öyster Cult I was a really big fan of Blue Öyster Cult during their black and white period - up until and including the 1975 live double album. But when 1976´s Agents Fortune album appeares I was mightily dissappointed. I lost my interest in the band´s new, pop-style music. Although I continued to listen to their albums from the "golden age" of 1972-1975. And I continued to purchase each new BÖC album partly out of desperate hope for a renaissance in their music and partly just because of my fond memories of the once great band. BÖC were awesome as a hard rock/heavy metal band. But, in IMO they sucked as a pop band.

09-12-2016, 05:19 AM	#48 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ Well, you're right; from what I've heard so far, Blackstar is something special. I really like the sombre sound and the horns. Given how the release is so linked to the news of his death, the sinister videos that go with are very striking too. Thanks for the rec. Another artist whose sound changed repeatedly is Beefheart. Apart from his vocals, it's difficult to see much similarity between the consecutive albums Safe As Milk/Strictly Personal/ Trout Mask. But I was happy to go with the changes - until the descent to Bluejeans and Moonbeams that is! __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953