Radiohead In Rainbows Discussion (dance, indie, rock, albums, tracks)

sleepy jack · 10-20-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Way to dance around the question.

I stated what a ballad was in the post, it was answered before you even asked.

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Originally Posted by Stu

STILL completely disagree with you, all 3 songs you cite as mediocre are in my opinion great, Planet Telex is such a strong opening track which is aggressive whilst mellifluent, its such a robust song. The bends is indie rock at its best with really powerful lyrics. Bones is a masterfully crafted pop song with a great quiet-loud dynamic. I dont there are any duff songs on it, each one is brilliant in its own way. It isnt groundbreaking or revolutionary in any way (which is probably why its only my fourth favourite), but for what it is, its the best in its field by a mile.

I'll reply to this later.

right-track · 10-20-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I'll reply to this later...when I've consulted wikipedia.

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sleepy jack · 10-20-2007, 10:48 AM

>.< I have to leave in 10 minutes right-track I don't feel like opening up wmp to listen to the Bends to make sure i'm hating on the right tracks (lolrighttracks)!

ProggyMan · 10-20-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I stated what a ballad was in the post, it was answered before you even asked.

Really? Where? The closest I saw was you interpretating what freedictionary was trying to say.

Sneer · 10-20-2007, 11:10 AM

oh, and id say fake plastic tree's, high and dry, nice dream, bullet proof and street spirit could all be classified as ballads (although its debateable considering radioheads knack of building up to a end crecendo, certainly in the case of nice dream), but that really is a moot point as to me any comparisons between radiohead and U2 is like comparing bon jovi to led zeppelin.

sleepy jack · 10-20-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Really? Where? The closest I saw was you interpretating what freedictionary was trying to say.

Okay you obtuse douchebag. Lets breakdown my post like we usually have to.

"Okay, if you're going to cite a source why not keep using the same source?"

Meaning, how come you only switch up sites every argument instead of sticking to the same one which could provide information about the subject. The answer: because that site agrees with me on one thing but not the other so I need to find one that does.

"I'm going to take a wild stab at thefreedictionary probably saying something"

Wild stab, also known as a GUESS. Meaning I hadn't looked it up on freedictionary, so you know I had nothing to interpret.

"along the lines of a ballad is a poem written meant to be sung or a popular romance song (which it is)."

Theres where I stated what a ballad was.

"It probably does say that, my dictionary does"
theres where I back it up and apparently thefreedictionary agrees too.

"so naturally you wouldn't use it because it contradicts your statements and you don't want that, you want to be "right not accurate"."

Already covered that, so done!

sleepy jack · 10-20-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

oh, and id say fake plastic tree's, high and dry, nice dream, bullet proof and street spirit could all be classified as ballads (although its debateable considering radioheads knack of building up to a end crecendo, certainly in the case of nice dream), but that really is a moot point as to me any comparisons between radiohead and U2 is like comparing bon jovi to led zeppelin.

No, they're really not ballads at all according to definition and if were not going by definitions then okay I can agree to that. But since were not going by definition the original debate was whether or not they're rock anthems. I wouldn't call them rock anthems.

sleepy jack · 10-20-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

STILL completely disagree with you, all 3 songs you cite as mediocre are in my opinion great, Planet Telex is such a strong opening track which is aggressive whilst mellifluent, its such a robust song. The bends is indie rock at its best with really powerful lyrics. Bones is a masterfully crafted pop song with a great quiet-loud dynamic. I dont there are any duff songs on it, each one is brilliant in its own way. It isnt groundbreaking or revolutionary in any way (which is probably why its only my fourth favourite), but for what it is, its the best in its field by a mile.

Um, okay you really didn't explain why they weren't mediocre you just talked about why you loved them. The Bends, as you said was just plain indie rock Bones is too. You could find other bands do the same thing, therefore average, generic, mediocre. Planet Telex is just dull and doesn't go anywhere, minus the 13 seconds of silence in the beginning you seriously have the entire song figured out in 30 seconds. Its predictable and repetitive and doesn't go anywhere.

I should state though that I don't hate the Bends, I just don't think its special with the exception of Street Spirit. High and Dry will always hold a special place in my heart since it was the first Radiohead song I heard and the only one I really liked for awhile. In addition to that the acoustic driven tracks were what got me into OK Computer.

ProggyMan · 10-20-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Okay you obtuse douchebag. Lets breakdown my post like we usually have to.

"Okay, if you're going to cite a source why not keep using the same source?"

Meaning, how come you only switch up sites every argument instead of sticking to the same one which could provide information about the subject. The answer: because that site agrees with me on one thing but not the other so I need to find one that does.

"I'm going to take a wild stab at thefreedictionary probably saying something"

Wild stab, also known as a GUESS. Meaning I hadn't looked it up on freedictionary, so you know I had nothing to interpret.

"along the lines of a ballad is a poem written meant to be sung or a popular romance song (which it is)."

Theres where I stated what a ballad was.

"It probably does say that, my dictionary does"
theres where I back it up and apparently thefreedictionary agrees too.

"so naturally you wouldn't use it because it contradicts your statements and you don't want that, you want to be "right not accurate"."

Already covered that, so done!

You never say what you think a ballad is.

sleepy jack · 10-20-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

You never say what you think a ballad is.

I don't make up definitions.

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