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Old 08-23-2016, 03:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's only because there's no Airto thread yet.

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Old 08-23-2016, 04:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Still better than Led Zep
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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To follow up on the comments about meeting him

I think it was around 89 and The Fall were touring with Magazine. However, checking to see if my dates add up according to wiki Magazine was defunct at the time but Howard Devoto was definitely there. Probably playing with the band Luxuria but in my mind it was the guy from Magazine. I also saw the Buzzcocks way back but that was a different show.

My friend and I actually travelled like about 1000 miles each way. Lots of weird things happened on that trip. My buddy actually went to see The Melvins on that trip and for some reason I didn't go. It seems like The Melvins would be right up my alley but they've never sat right with me. I'm not sure why but I've always liked what they represent more than their actual sound. Stoner Witch is cool though.

Well we hung out outside that club starting before noon and just waited there until The Fall showed up. We saw the tour bus arrive but we were ignored as we tried to introduce ourselves. We probably seemed like junior high girls swarming Justin Beiber but we tried not to be a nuisance. What we did though was we knocked on the door of the club and asked if we could please meet with Mark E Smith. The guy said he'd ask. Maybe 20 minutes later someone came out and invited us in. My friend had a bunch of singles he wanted signed and Smith took a great interest in the singles saying they were very obscure and even one that he had actually never seen himself. He seemed completely sober. He was also very gracious and said something along the lines that it was fans like us that made it all worth it. Then he announced that he needed to get on with the sound check and whatnot and sort of apologetically told us that it was time for us to move on and that we couldn't stay in the club and needed to come back when the doors officially opened. So that was that. He seemed like a really nice guy.

I don't take the experience for granted. I know he's a very important figure in the history of rock'n'roll. I'm glad we made the effort we did.

The concert was great. Howard Devoto is a great show man. He was very powerful on stage. And The Fall were very exciting live.
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Sometimes I forget these are even real people

It's like the guy exists in another world for me

I'm a big magazine fan too
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Yes Mark E Smith is beyond interesting. It took me a while to realize his brilliance. Heard The Fall from mid/late 80s on wards, even saw them in the mid 90s in London and sort of got it. Then saw them again about 2 years ago in Sydney Australia of all places, and finally the penny dropped!! Always associated their songs with his laconic whiny drawl but what i finally realized was how fantastic the sounds he creates and the song writing is. So original, very disharmonic but in such a poppy way. Love it. (And to work a reference to the disease tinnitus into any song is just great).
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I also like

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Old 09-17-2016, 03:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yes Mark E Smith is beyond interesting. It took me a while to realize his brilliance. Heard The Fall from mid/late 80s on wards, even saw them in the mid 90s in London and sort of got it. Then saw them again about 2 years ago in Sydney Australia of all places, and finally the penny dropped!! Always associated their songs with his laconic whiny drawl but what i finally realized was how fantastic the sounds he creates and the song writing is. So original, very disharmonic but in such a poppy way. Love it. (And to work a reference to the disease tinnitus into any song is just great).
People don't spend enough time listening and miss out on all the razor sharp hooks underneath the dissonance

Once they catch you they don't let go

Mark can shout a wicked melody he doesn't get enough credit for that
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Yes. Possibly a bit like Psychocandy (my other current re-obession).

PS. Think The Fall is worshiped at least in some circles... perhaps that's enough?
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I've been a huge Fall fan for quite some time. But it seems like the music is on a downhill slide from which there's no recovery. After wasting money on Ersarz GB and Re-Mit, I decided to listen to all of Sublingual Tongue before deciding to purchase. My attention started wandering by the fourth song. So I decided to pass on buying it.

But there's still a lot of great stuff in their huge discography. MES and his various crews have definitely put out a lot of seminal music over the years.

As for meeting the man, I've had a couple of chances but declined both times. The best one was before a show at The Agora in Cleveland in August or September 1993. The Agora had both a large main room and a smaller room. Predictably, The Fall show was the smaller room. The main room was curtained off, but I looked behind the curtain and he was sitting by himself in one of the seats, reading a newspaper. I decided not to approach him. His talent is undeniable but personally he's a world class jerk, and I was in no mood to tolerate any rude behavior on his part. Probably all for the best. Trust the art, not the artist, and all that.
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:44 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I can understand not wanting to meet the artists you like

as for The Fall's latest output last one I really really liked was Your Future Our Clutter released in 2010

but that's just the way The Fall are they'll drop something that defines your existence and then the next album will be something you just can't get into
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