Originally Posted by ziggywas
yeah i m familiar with all that material. i was a huge pumpkins fan when i was in school and that was a cd and tape era so the stuff you would have you listened to them many many times
1/3 first cds i bought was mellon collie, i would save money to buy the aeroplane flies high in cd box set, i have the "ransom" soundtrack (for god's sake) which i had to buy to listen to the tracks BC wrote , pisces iscariot etc etc.
thats why i told you earlier that the mellon collie b-sides were better than the machinas.
but i ll also insist that when you release a box of cds with the songs that didnt make it to mellon collie, to have a bunch of good songs or good ideas for songs is more than enough (and there were plenty of good stuff in there)
when you release the follow-up to adore, a bunch of good alt rock songs wasnt enough. i also believe that the pumpkins didnt even have that minimum at the time.
it was a 100% false move without even some good songs to back it up.
there was no album that was going to make Pumpkins the biggest band in the world again
they were just in the right place at the right time
ironically some the best SP material is in Machina 2 which was put up free on the internet