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Old 11-16-2009, 11:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well I mean... my family tradition is to chant a thanks to the settlers for killing all of the Native Americans, then desecrate an authentic skull from the time of the Pilgrims by pissing in it. I guess I could see where some might view this as slightly racist.

Really though, that's a dumb idea. There's only one thing more idiotic than saying that Thanksgiving is a racist holiday. And that's digging up a 4 year old thread about it on a music forum, for your first post no less.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It's not racist in the way that celebrating the 12th Of July in Northern Ireland is, and it dosn't celebrate the destruction of Native Americans, it celebrates the founding of the colonies,which are seperate things.
I don't know what happens on the 12th, the Orange show off their true colors??

It's not a racist holiday. It's agricultural in origin, it's not so much founding of the colonies, as it is a harvest feast. The Isrealites had something similar in the Feasts of Booths. And being religious that is probably why the Pilgrims celebrated the first Thanksgiving.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:36 AM   #23 (permalink)
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i'd say it's more imperialistic than racist. racist is this button word designed to stir the Irish up in people, it's well out of context here. i suppose imperialistic isn't nearly incendiary enough to make it work.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:00 AM   #24 (permalink)
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i'd say it's more imperialistic than racist. racist is this button word designed to stir the Irish up in people, it's well out of context here. i suppose imperialistic isn't nearly incendiary enough to make it work.
...the irish people?
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:04 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If the Native Americans are offended by it then I guess it would be racist
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't know what happens on the 12th, the Orange show off their true colors??
Unionists celebrate the destruction of Irish independence and the imposition of the penal laws upon Catholics, as well as the Cromwellian massacres of Catholics.
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yay, this idea again. if you have to explain yourself in more than a sentence it's probably not racist enough to offend anyone enough to warrant a whole thread.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:49 PM   #28 (permalink)
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i'd say it's more imperialistic than racist. racist is this button word designed to stir the Irish up in people, it's well out of context here. i suppose imperialistic isn't nearly incendiary enough to make it work.
What are you saying!? the Pilgrims, unbeknownst to the American Indians, were celebrating the fact they were part of British imperialism and disguised it as a harvest festival? I thought calling Thanksgiving racist was super-nonsensical but calling it Imperialistic, really?

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Unionists celebrate the destruction of Irish independence and the imposition of the penal laws upon Catholics, as well as the Cromwellian massacres of Catholics.
Forgive me for not knowing, you have to understand, the story of the Irish Catholics suffering persecution is erased from the annals of post-modern contempary popular history. I didn't know about the Cromwellian massacre of Catholics, either. I knew about the persecution of Catholics in Elzibethan England, but Catholicism did survive in some places in England, the further you were away from London the safer you were.
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:24 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Dont really celebrate anything on thanksgiving,I just eat turkey and chill with my family.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
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*facepalm*

I ate a turkey sandwich today for lunch.

It was pretty fucking racist.
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