The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (house, effects, quote, Inci)

Barnard17 · 06-04-2006, 03:25 PM

We come from monkies. Archeologists have found progressive skeletons of humans and prehumans (namely Neanderthals but there are other types I gather) which are increasingly compatible with monkies the further back we go. And Darwins adaption theory, "Survival of the fittest" is tried and tested and without a doubt proven. Is it so emotionally painful for you to believe that we haven't always been mostly hairless and upright?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-04-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

I wasn't talking about you, I was referencing this threads topic, and in reply to Ethan saying he believe in Creation, and therefor not evolution.
The first part of my post was directed at you.

It`s not a cop out , it`s the truth.

DontRunMeOver · 06-04-2006, 03:26 PM

Urban's arguing against the big bang, which is a much flimsier theory than evolution. Evolution is a theory, but its one which has been shown to work very well. Evolution can be seen by observing biological systems, animals, behaviour, DNA and all those things. The big bang is just a theory that it tenously 'proven' with a load of mathematics by physicists and mathematicians who you might not be able to trust, because their ability to publish their work may depend upon them proving that their theory is fact.

tdoc210 · 06-04-2006, 03:27 PM

^ in theory your just a bunch of eletric signals that could be anything from a robotic computer to a parrot typing.. but we know your a real person...

sleepy jack · 06-04-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

Saying "its just a theory" is a cop out. That's the point.
Evolution is fact, how can you even argue that?

'Cause I believe we were created & I have faith in it?

~~bungalow~~ · 06-04-2006, 03:27 PM

It's just a theory so disregard it?
What about EVERY OTHER SCIETIFIC THEORY that we take as fact?

bruise_violet · 06-04-2006, 03:28 PM

With Evolution there has to be a starting point, like "where did animals come from in the first place?" and those questions will never be answered, at least I don't think so.

~~bungalow~~ · 06-04-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

'Cause I believe we were created & I have faith in it?

So you believe that we were always just like we are now?
That is ignorance.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-04-2006, 03:30 PM

I`m not argueing against it.

I`m just saying it`s a theory. One that might have 'some' scientific evidence to back it up , but it`s still only a theory.

Besides , what caused the big bang? what was there before that? Where did the gas that cause the big bang come from?

It doesn`t answer any of those questions

~~bungalow~~ · 06-04-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

With Evolution there has to be a starting point, like "where did animals come from in the first place?" and those questions will never be answered, at least I don't think so.

That starting point, is called the Big Bang Theory.

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I`m not argueing against it.

I`m just saying it`s a theory. One that might have 'some' scientific evidence to back it up , but it`s still only a theory.

Besides , what caused the big bang? what was there before that? Where did the gas that cause the big bang come from?

It doesn`t answer any of those questions

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I've yet to hear a theory that explains what created god.
Howcome "He always was and always will be" is an acceptable answer for Christians to use to explain god, but it isn't good enough for the matter that combusted during the Big Bang.

06-04-2006, 03:25 PM	#1241 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	We come from monkies. Archeologists have found progressive skeletons of humans and prehumans (namely Neanderthals but there are other types I gather) which are increasingly compatible with monkies the further back we go. And Darwins adaption theory, "Survival of the fittest" is tried and tested and without a doubt proven. Is it so emotionally painful for you to believe that we haven't always been mostly hairless and upright? __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps

06-04-2006, 03:27 PM	#1244 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	^ in theory your just a bunch of eletric signals that could be anything from a robotic computer to a parrot typing.. but we know your a real person... __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

06-04-2006, 03:28 PM	#1247 (permalink)
bruise_violet we became a carcass! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 383	With Evolution there has to be a starting point, like "where did animals come from in the first place?" and those questions will never be answered, at least I don't think so. __________________ in love with the stumps, in love with the bleeding! in love with the pain that you now feel...

06-04-2006, 03:30 PM	#1249 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I`m not argueing against it. I`m just saying it`s a theory. One that might have 'some' scientific evidence to back it up , but it`s still only a theory. Besides , what caused the big bang? what was there before that? Where did the gas that cause the big bang come from? It doesn`t answer any of those questions __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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06-04-2006, 03:27 PM	#1246 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	It's just a theory so disregard it? What about EVERY OTHER SCIETIFIC THEORY that we take as fact?