The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (music video, American, quote, band)

Stone Magnet · 07-23-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

assasinate Bush to prevent America's involvement and the possible outbreak of a world war?

Sure, if you want to go that route.

Come on...John Lennon, shot and killed. JFK, shot and killed. Dimebag Darrell, shot and killed. Tupac Shakur, shot and killed. Martin Luther King Jr., shot and killed. Marvin Gaye Jr., shot and killed. Peter Tosh, shot and killed.

You're shooting the wrong fucking people. Somebody go put a fucking bullet in Bush's head or shut the fuck up.

Or you could always just stop fucking whining and come to the realization that George Bush is not in charge of America.

cardboard adolescent · 07-23-2006, 02:57 PM

The CIA is already onto us at this point.. I will continue to contact you using a public payphone. The plans will have to be set in motion very quickly.

Stone Magnet · 07-23-2006, 03:07 PM

There's more of 'us' than there are CIA members. Kill them too.

DearJenny · 07-23-2006, 05:47 PM

It is my belief that America is following early Eastern Europe in similar ways. And Europe followed the same path as Rome. Its a cycle. The rise and fall of world powers.

Its my theory the next world power will be Australia. I mean, they MUST be planning something to be producing a whole lot of nothing, right? lol.

Barnard17 · 07-23-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

I'm backing Israel, if Lebanon started the conflict then it was their decision to do so, and Israel should be able to defend themselves in an independent manner without third party intervention.

Lebanon didn't start the conflict. Hezbullah abducted Israeli troops. Hezbullah=/=Lebanon. Not to mention that the troops abducted were 1) ambushed, hence they have a regular and predictable route and 2) on Lebanese soil - considered by most to be an act of war.

Not to mention that Israel started the conflict when they started reducing Beirut to rubble. So far they've killed well over 300 Lebanese civillians, 20+ holiday makers, destroyed Lebanese road structure and bridges, set to work destroying Lebanese infrastructure and reduced commercial docks and airports to rubble.

Even in war, civillian casualties and attacks are unnacceptable and nothing other than acts of terrorism. Israel don't even bother to target Lebanese Military (who have about as much to do with the whole thing as the average Lebanese civvie) let alone pinpoint Hezbullan fighters.

Raine · 07-23-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

I'm backing Israel,if Lebanon started the conflict then it was their decision to do so, and Israel should be able to defend themselves in an independent manner without third party intervention.

Lebanon didn't start crap. Israelis have been attacked and their homes invaded for as long as anyone can remember. fact is, bush is mkaing a big deal outa this because he can and he wants to try and make it look like he's doing something to help mankind during his reign of terror in office.
And he can do it with this Lebanon Israel conflict since Israel is having some problems along the Israel Lebanon border.

And Lebanon has been invaded and attacked by some groups of the past few years as well and has faced a few civil wars in the last century. Come on. Give us a break here.

Something gotta give and the first step towards making something happen is a conference between prominent Israeli and lebanese leaders.

My 2 cents

Trauma · 07-23-2006, 09:25 PM

Oops I didn't read that the Hezbollah was a militant group located in Lebanon.
Then after considering this, I think:
Israel should determine what should be done by themselves, given that their men were taken prisoner.
America shouldn't act as a global policeman like they always do.

Raine · 07-23-2006, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snickers

Oops I didn't read that the Hezbollah was a militant group located in Lebanon.
Then after considering this, I think:
Israel should determine what should be done by themselves, given that their men were taken prisoner.
America shouldn't act as a global policeman like they always do.

I know I sound so unpatriotic (to america) but the US should either practice neutrality or prepare to get some rightfully deserved bombings.

Trauma · 07-23-2006, 09:28 PM

Neutrality went out the window after the first half of the 20th century.

Raine · 07-23-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

Neutrality went out the window after the first half of the 20th century.

Nah.
Think of Vietnam. The US was one of the few countries that decided to enter that particular conflict. Where was say Italy or Germany or any other developed countries?
No where.
You know why?
Because they don't feel like being bothered with the drama of other nations.
So why did the US enter?
because americans are stupid

07-23-2006, 03:07 PM	#1663 (permalink)
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07-23-2006, 05:47 PM	#1664 (permalink)
DearJenny Raptor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 1,321	It is my belief that America is following early Eastern Europe in similar ways. And Europe followed the same path as Rome. Its a cycle. The rise and fall of world powers. Its my theory the next world power will be Australia. I mean, they MUST be planning something to be producing a whole lot of nothing, right? lol. __________________ So here's to living life miserable. And here's to all the lonely stories that I've told. Maybe drinking wine will validate my sorrow. Every man needs a muse and mine could be the bottle.

07-23-2006, 02:57 PM	#1662 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	The CIA is already onto us at this point.. I will continue to contact you using a public payphone. The plans will have to be set in motion very quickly.

07-23-2006, 09:25 PM	#1667 (permalink)
Trauma snickers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: detroit Posts: 2,194	Oops I didn't read that the Hezbollah was a militant group located in Lebanon. Then after considering this, I think: Israel should determine what should be done by themselves, given that their men were taken prisoner. America shouldn't act as a global policeman like they always do.

07-23-2006, 09:28 PM	#1669 (permalink)
Trauma snickers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: detroit Posts: 2,194	Neutrality went out the window after the first half of the 20th century.