The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (house, rock, fan, quote)

Merkaba · 12-17-2006, 01:32 PM

Right, fuck sake, therefore it doesn't matter what you believe while living, your soul shall go elsewhere, right? Thats what you just said.
And because our souls go elsewhere than clearly, again, it means it didn't matter what we believed in while we were living, because if all souls go elsewhere and some of us don't believe in the afterlife than mathematically it proves what we believe now doesn't matter later, so technically we don't need to be christian to make it to heaven, and possibly some christians could go to hell.

Or are you next going to tell me that all souls that weren't believers meander about in nothingness for all eternity?

~~The Unfan~~ · 12-17-2006, 01:36 PM

...and what if we don't have souls?

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-17-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

Right, fuck sake, therefore it doesn't matter what you believe while living, your soul shall go elsewhere, right? Thats what you just said.
And because our souls go elsewhere than clearly, again, it means it didn't matter what we believed in while we were living, because if all souls go elsewhere and some of us don't believe in the afterlife than mathematically it proves what we believe now doesn't matter later, so technically we don't need to be christian to make it to heaven, and possibly some christians could go to hell.

Or are you next going to tell me that all souls that weren't believers meander about in nothingness for all eternity?

Are you seriously this thick-headed, or are you making a special attempt on my behalf? I said our souls go elsewhere, but where they go depends on how you lived your life. Let me try to explain it in terms you can comprehend. Good life=heaven. Bad life=hell. Clear enough? So how you live your life on earth is directory proportional to where your soul will spend eternity. And Im not sure about all of the nonbelievers/athiests, but IMO (in accordance with the Bible) they will go to hell :\ Mathematics plays no role in it

right-track · 12-17-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay

Are you seriously this thick-headed, or are you making a special attempt on my behalf? I said our souls go elsewhere, but where they go depends on how you lived your life. Let me try to explain it in terms you can comprehend. Good life=heaven. Bad life=hell. Clear enough? So how you live your life on earth is directory proportional to where your soul will spend eternity. And Im not sure about all of the nonbelievers/athiests, but IMO (in accordance with the Bible) they will go to hell :\ Mathematics plays no role in it

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

OOOOOOJAY...

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-17-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

OOOOOOJAY...

That was not a personal attack, it was on observation. (Duely noted none the less).

right-track · 12-17-2006, 01:42 PM

It's how it always kicks off though. (glad it's noted)

Merkaba · 12-17-2006, 03:27 PM

Oojay there is nothing thick headed about what I said, and it's particularly rich coming from you when your point of veiw is to back the complete unknown.

If I said to you the universe was the shape of two men partaking in sodomy, would you tell me I'm wrong? Yeah I've got no proof but I see no problem in going around saying this is right and everyone who doesn't believe me is wrong.

You have to realise that believing what you believe is only a perspective, you know, you can say all of your stuff but at the end of the day you are no more right than the next guy. I realise there could well be an afterlife, and a heaven, and a hell, and until it is proven, I'll take what has so far been apparent, there is no afterlife.

It's a bit like do you believe in innocent until proven guilty?

You know, I would hate to spend my life chasing a rainbow to find theres no pot of gold at the end.

tdoc210 · 12-17-2006, 03:30 PM

i like the pagan concept, of revering nature.

sleepy jack · 12-17-2006, 04:09 PM

God is such a close minded prejudiced bastard.
IF YOURE NOT THIS RELIGION, I'M SENDING YOU TO HELL.
Hes also shown us how racist he is too.
Sounds like a guy I wanna worship.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-17-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

Oojay there is nothing thick headed about what I said, and it's particularly rich coming from you when your point of veiw is to back the complete unknown.

If I said to you the universe was the shape of two men partaking in sodomy, would you tell me I'm wrong? Yeah I've got no proof but I see no problem in going around saying this is right and everyone who doesn't believe me is wrong.

You have to realise that believing what you believe is only a perspective, you know, you can say all of your stuff but at the end of the day you are no more right than the next guy. I realise there could well be an afterlife, and a heaven, and a hell, and until it is proven, I'll take what has so far been apparent, there is no afterlife.

It's a bit like do you believe in innocent until proven guilty?

You know, I would hate to spend my life chasing a rainbow to find theres no pot of gold at the end.

So basically all youre saying is that you have no faith. Nearly all religions are based on faith, which is, as you so eloquently put it, "backing the complete unknown". And I most certainly do believe that my belief is unique to me, and everyone is entitled to theit own opinion, as I have stated SEVERAL TIMES.

12-17-2006, 01:32 PM	#2751 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	Right, fuck sake, therefore it doesn't matter what you believe while living, your soul shall go elsewhere, right? Thats what you just said. And because our souls go elsewhere than clearly, again, it means it didn't matter what we believed in while we were living, because if all souls go elsewhere and some of us don't believe in the afterlife than mathematically it proves what we believe now doesn't matter later, so technically we don't need to be christian to make it to heaven, and possibly some christians could go to hell. Or are you next going to tell me that all souls that weren't believers meander about in nothingness for all eternity? __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

12-17-2006, 03:27 PM	#2757 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	Oojay there is nothing thick headed about what I said, and it's particularly rich coming from you when your point of veiw is to back the complete unknown. If I said to you the universe was the shape of two men partaking in sodomy, would you tell me I'm wrong? Yeah I've got no proof but I see no problem in going around saying this is right and everyone who doesn't believe me is wrong. You have to realise that believing what you believe is only a perspective, you know, you can say all of your stuff but at the end of the day you are no more right than the next guy. I realise there could well be an afterlife, and a heaven, and a hell, and until it is proven, I'll take what has so far been apparent, there is no afterlife. It's a bit like do you believe in innocent until proven guilty? You know, I would hate to spend my life chasing a rainbow to find theres no pot of gold at the end. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

12-17-2006, 03:30 PM	#2758 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	i like the pagan concept, of revering nature. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

12-17-2006, 01:36 PM	#2752 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	...and what if we don't have souls?

12-17-2006, 01:42 PM	#2756 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	It's how it always kicks off though. (glad it's noted)