The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (country, quote)

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

Why should you be sorry if it wasn't your fault?

It comes down to whether the intent or the consequence is more important in determing the "right-ness" of an act.

[Kurt_Cobain]

Because if you kill someone it's your responsibility to be sorry, accident or otherwise. It's like saying if you kill a child when he steps infront of your car, you wouldn't feel terrible, and apologise to the parents. You would.

[sleepy jack]

Hooray for deciding you know how everyone thinks.

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

Because if you kill someone it's your responsibility to be sorry, accident or otherwise. It's like saying if you kill a child when he steps infront of your car, you wouldn't feel terrible, and apologise to the parents. You would.

Mom should've been watching the little fuck.

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

oh dear. I won't even insult you. It's just too easy.

1. The definition of nihilism taken from www.m-w.com
1 a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths

It's the idea that human existence is absurd.

2. You act like you proved me wrong when you said that Atheist don't believe in Supernatural powers. I said that.


A) Belief in an afterlife is based on belief in a religious system (whatever that is)
B) Atheism refutes all religious systems
so C) Atheist do not believe in the afterlife.

It's the transitive property.

3. It's perception. You like to bring it up everytime I make fun of someone's music. You have no idea how I'm seeing the clock. To me it could be red, which would make me right to me. You are spouting your opinion's as fact. And mis-quoting definitions. Besides. It's called a false dichotomy. Your perception is not mine. You are speaking in absolutes. The entire branch of philosophy known as Epistomolgy proves logically, that you cannot know anything. You can only perceive.

4. What defines bad? You? God? What if I choose to not believe in a God? How is his judgement on me in anyway substantial? (and I must concede, I misread your post)

5. You said all religions. Buddhism, which IS a religion, does not teach that. A rather glaring error. Not a trifling one.

6. Actually no. Homosexuality is a genetic trait. Therefore not a choice. One cannot choose to not be ***. To deny them marriage, to deny them sex, is horrible. I understand that man mis-interperets, the word of God all the time. But that's not an excuse to preach hate.

7. I was rasied Methodist actually. You like to make fun of people for their lack of maturity and yet in a mature subject, you demonstrate none yourself.

8. The concept of an afterlife is not common sense. I cannot stress enough that you cannot KNOW that there is one. If you did then you wouldn't have faith. You'd have knowledge. Knowledge is the anti-thesis of faith and therefore is the anti-thesis of God. If you know God than you cannot be human by the definition of God.


I truly do not understand how you can simply brush aside the rules of logic like they mean nothing.

How are you going to sit there and tell people their opinions on music are wrong and yours are the only one that is right, and then turn around call me a hypocrite?! You are the textbook definition of a hypocrite. And just b/c you have an online dictionary bookmarked doesnt make you smart, it makes you a phony who cant back up his ownn crackpot opinions. And not everything is based on perception, THERE ARE DEFINITES And I can know god and be a human, its called BEING A CHRISTIAN christains have personal relationships with god, something you would hae already known if you werent pretending to have been a "christian".

[Kurt_Cobain]

WTF Ethan? Ahh whatever, religious threads are pointless, nobody 'wins' or cares about others p.o.v's

[cardboard adolescent]

Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

Because if you kill someone it's your responsibility to be sorry, accident or otherwise. It's like saying if you kill a child when he steps infront of your car, you wouldn't feel terrible, and apologise to the parents. You would.

I'd apologize like crazy, so they wouldn't press charges or sue me.

An accident implies that it was completely out of your control. If I was speeding and not paying attention, it would be my fault that I ran the little dirtbag over, and thus would not really be an accident. If, on the other hand, he had been playing in the middle of the road with his invisibility cloak on, that's not my damn fault, and why should I feel sorry for something I had no control over? I'd just be pissed of for having to deal with vehicular manslaughter.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

WTF Ethan? Ahh whatever, religious threads are pointless, nobody 'wins' or cares about others p.o.v's

What I mean is like, if Gacy hit that kid I highly doubt he would've felt bad at all.

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

WTF Ethan? Ahh whatever, religious threads are pointless, nobody 'wins' or cares about others p.o.v's

no joke. nobody realizes that this thread was just created by hiu to cause dysfunction on the boards. they just welcome it and use it to bash christianity. I guess we'll se whose right when we're all dead.

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and on a side note, I had better NEVER hear RAR complain about too much bullsh*t in the lounge after bumping this sh*tstorm thread.