The Recreational Drug Thread

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Paloma

Even if you do practice harm reduction, you can't always be sure about the purity of your heroin.

And this is coming from someone who's actually done it, not just someone who follows drug propaganda.

Why did you try heroin? It seems so self-destructive to me that I've sort of assumed that you need to be in a rather self-destructive mindset to want to try it.

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by tore

Why did you try heroin? It seems so self-destructive to me that I've sort of assumed that you need to be in a rather self-destructive mindset to want to try it.

Is it the principle of self-destruction or the relative amount of self-destruction you find disagreeable?

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

The only drugs I have ever tried are Alcohol, Caffeine and Hugs.

I've tried hugs before as well. It's a gateway into unprotected sex and eventually AIDS. Screw that.

[Pulsar]

Nicotine is the real man's drug.. The rest is just for youth to experiment with :p

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Is it the principle of self-destruction or the relative amount of self-destruction you find disagreeable?

I'm not disagreeing with anyone or anything, nor trying to be judgmental. It's an honest question because I'm genuinely curious as to what the answer would be.

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I've tried hugs before as well. It's a gateway into unprotected sex and eventually AIDS. Screw that.

I have a self destructive nature, I like to live on the wild side.

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by tore

I'm not disagreeing with anyone or anything, nor trying to be judgmental. It's an honest question because I'm genuinely curious as to what the answer would be.

Likewise. I was just being curious as well.
It just piqued my interest that you assumed someone to be self-destructive for trying Heroin once.

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Likewise. I was just being curious as well.
It just piqued my interest that you assumed someone to be self-destructive for trying Heroin once.

If I just assumed it and was happy with that assumption, I wouldn't have asked. I've made this assumption in the past and now there's a chance to challenge it and gain a little insight.

edit :

The assumption stems from that the only people I see who I know have tried heroin are homeless junkies (I don't know anyone with "normal" happy lives who's ever done it).

[Sansa Stark]

Originally Posted by tore

Why did you try heroin? It seems so self-destructive to me that I've sort of assumed that you need to be in a rather self-destructive mindset to want to try it.

Curiosity, mostly. Maybe I was in a sort of self-destructive mindset at the time, I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I found that it's not all that great.

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by tore

If I just assumed it and was happy with that assumption, I wouldn't have asked. I've made this assumption in the past and now there's a chance to challenge it and gain a little insight.

edit :

The assumption stems from that the only people I see who I know have tried heroin are homeless junkies (I don't know anyone with "normal" happy lives who's ever done it).

Hmm. That's odd. I know plenty of people who've tried it at least once. Many of them are happy, fully functional adults now. A lot of them were close friends. I was one of them, although I was always too scared to use a needle so I only snorted it.
But, speaking from experience, we weren't self-destructive junkies. We knew the risks, but were very curious as to what the fuss was all about.

I think there's a pretty evident line between recreational drug users and homeless junkies, although I do recognize that one can lead to the other, although I'm sure we all know it's not an inevitable conclusion that it will.

As far as whether someone should be considered "self-destructive" for using heroin recreationally, I fall back to what I asked you before about whether you view self-destructive behavior as negative via principle or effect, because if you've ever binge drank and ended up with a crippling hangover for a few days, with total knowledge of the possibility and health effects, not to mention drinking in a long term scenario, then that could be considered self-destructive as well.
In a self analysis of which you find the greater evil, to be more ok with one than the other would indicate a person's views of self-destructive behavior as not a matter of principle but of effect.

I was just trying to ascertain which of those you side with.

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

From the looks of it, you don't have a lot of room in there if you're using that setup for anything other than the vegetative stage.. but I'm pretty sure the drawing isn't to scale or anything.

Fan? Timer?
Utterly cool sunglasses?

Yeah it actually looks nothing like this, I have a pretty rad exhaust system in mindjust way lazy to paint it out. Ill just post up photos as I get into it further.