s_k

They are only overshadowed by discussions about physical punishment

I don't think I'll lose any friend over those discussions. None of them is religious and all of them vote pretty leftish.
One of them didn't. I told him he's an idiot and I believe he now understands why he shouldn't have voted PVV (go and google )

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djchameleon

hey don't make me spank you since your parents weren't disciplined enough to do it!!
lol say what? he actually changed his views/positions. I mean it happens but it's very rare.

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s_k

You should be happy about that, I haven't got a clue how to kick your ass


What, people changing their view about politics is rare there?
It happens all the time here. We don't really have a left or a right wing. We have a lot of political parties and they all share some points. They work together in a coalition.
Right now we have a coalition of a party that's pretty christian (CDA) but mainly 'nothing'. They don't really do much on either side of the line. And there's the VVD which is very into hard labour and a pain in the ass for everyone who can't work hard. With the VVD the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The third party that has a lot to say here isn't part of the coalition, but definitely has some influence. It's called the PVV and is thought to be extremely on the right (as in 'not left') side. Turns out most of the PVV's views are quite left, but the party is rather racistic, especially when it comes to the Islam.

Eitherway, I vote SP which is about as left wing as you can get. It's obviously TOO left, but there's not much else. We have Groenlinks ("greenleft") which sounds left but is actually a party for rich hipsters.
And there's "PVDA", Partij van de Arbeid, meaning "Party of Labour", which is a bit left of centre and not all that bad, but still a bit too right for me.
I voted PVDA last year since SP really didn't stand a chance against PVV, VVD and CDA. I figured 'the best we can get is PVDA in the coalition'.
Didn't happen... ****.

I hope you can understand a thing of what I say. It may be very different from what you're used to

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djchameleon

lol even if you did know how to fight, you'd have a problem with me because i'm pretty good at Judo.


I was able to follow it just fine. I frown upon the general voting process so I don't vote. i didn't vote for Obama even though my racist friend was all like go vote for your monkey candidate all you want he's not going to win and lo and behold he did win. I didn't vote for him. I refused to. He was the lesser of two evils but highly inexperienced being a politician in my books. I don't care what race he is at the end of the day he's still a politician and he will do whatever is best for his career.

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Howard the Duck

We have two main factions here. The ruling coalition is called National Front, which is a group of moderate conservatives with one major party representing each major race - UMNO for Malays, MCA for Chinese and MIC for Indian.

The Opposition is called the Citizen's Alliance, which comprises of Malays kicked out of UMNO for disagreeing with the ex and current Prime Ministers, a Chinese activist party and a fundamentalist Islamic group of fanatics.

Guess which I voted for in the last election?

djchameleon

rofl , neither one?

umm no probably Citizen's Alliance

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Howard the Duck

correcto mundo - I was curious how such strange bedmates can run a country

s_k

Hahaha, I don't know how to fight. I don't really want to know.
I really use violence as a final resort. Which actually meant I never really had to use it

You can do a 'blank' vote here to show you're not agreeing with anything.
When you don't vote your vote will go to the party with the most votes eitherway. So you won't want that.

I'd kick that racist friends ass.
And in this case I really would
I get really agressive from racism. So I don't have any really racist friends.
One of them is a bit racist sometimes though and I have thrown him out of the house a couple of times for that.

I don't really follow American politics, but as far as I can see it's a lot of blahblah (he was a good talker from the start) and not much happening.
A real politician, thus

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s_k

So, wait.
You have a group of conservatives and an Alliance which contains a group of Islamic fundamentalists...
Both awful. I wouldn't vote for either

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Howard the Duck

the trick is using the hardest parts of your body (knees and elbows) on the most tenderest easily hurts parts of your opponent (Adam's Apple, nuts, right below the sternum) and grab something nearby that is really hard for a weapon (but don't cause a blunt trauma, you'd get charged for assault)

my friend used to draw cartoons on the ballot paper - "spoilt" vote

Obama isn't all black, is he? I only really encounter coward racists on this obnoxious message board I go to

I'd still take Obama over Bush Jr.