VEGANGELICA

You make a good point about the spammers...but I still feel having the rules appear visibly on the front page might help and shouldn't hurt, plus would cut down on confusion among people first looking at the site and inadvertantly posting links, etc., because they are unaware they shouldn't. Probably those people are very scarce compared to the obvious spammers, though.

Oh, The Unfan definitely wasn't a friend...he probably actively disliked me. I understand what you are saying about moderators trying to be patient and how it took effort to be remain patient and civil for so long. I do think the moderators are quite polite to me...maybe that's because I haven't caused *too* much trouble.

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MURDER JUNKIE

Pretty good actually
got a new job, just got back from Vegas, don't have to work shift work anymore
Things are coming together

How about yerself???

boo boo

It's ironic, for as long as I campaigned to get The Unfan banned, with no success. Once we actually start having friendly discussions and chatting it up on AIM, that's what he gets perma banned.

I've come to the conclusion that he's really an ok guy, just not when he's on this forum. We actually have similar interests and a few things in common, while it's hard to get over all the sh*t he's done in the past, at last for the time being we've managed to put it aside.

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Arya Stark

Making people feel welcome is wonderful.
Thank you for recognizing me, darling.

I disagree with the idea to have a separate welcome thread.
Not many of us use it.
It's like, me, storymilo, NumberNineDream, mojopinuk, and a few other people aside from yourself.

I do think the rules should be more mandatory, though.
It wasn't until recently that I even knew there were rules.
And many of the things I've seen are AGAINST the rules.

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anticipation

the introductions forum/thread is stupid to begin with, i really see no other purpose it serves aside from giving people who will never come here again the opportunity to list their favorite bands, and to have others say "welcome to mb" like retarded walmart greeters.

Darkest Hour

yeah, it's pretty pointless. Most of the people who make intros just leave the next day anyways.

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Terrible Lizard

Tried to get the Blues forum up. Nobody took a ****ing bite.

Less Eric Clapton wankery would be applicable.

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SATCHMO

There's too many active threads that have no purpose to them other than the fact that the OP simply felt compelled to start a thread to draw attention to her/himself. I honestly think that threads need to be judged by mods on the basis of whether or not certain threads are gonna' evoke legitimate discussion. I know that's subjective, but the boards just look like a giant **** heap.

boo boo

Ok, so these are the rules that are presented to you when you first sign up for the forum.

"Although the administrators and moderators of Music Banter will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to revirew all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Music Banter, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

The owners of Music Banter reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

You must be 14 years of age or older to register"

I think the "sexually oriented" part should be taken out, nobody follows it. And nobody pays the no piracy rule any attention either.

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VEGANGELICA

I agree with you, Sugar, that the welcoming is nice, and I mean to do more of it because I *want* to greet people. Your comments on the rules are troubling, but they support my view that many smart, well-meaning people (like you) miss reading them. People forever wander into the songwriting thread unaware that there is an introduction thread...or rules. Of course, most people as MB-old as *you* are probably find the rules within the first month after joining, not at the end of their first *year* (ha ha!). But, I still love ya!

Heh heh, I *like* Walmart greeters because (1) I know their job is to greet people to try to get people to buy more, and so I feel kind of sorry for them, (2) I like to greet them and ask them how they are to try to cheer them up so that they won't feel like people think they are "retarded walmart greeters."

I feel a good, warm greeting can help new MB members feel genuinely welcome. I think that is a good goal, all by itself, whether the person stays or not. I feel that if people haven't been welcoming to new members, then the quality of the MB experience *will* go down. I planned to stay regardless of the welcome I received in the introduction thread, which certainly wasn't altogether positive, but others with thinner hides than I might be scared off by older MB members. For example, I've seen a young man belittled, chased and heckled out of the songwriting section...I tried to defend him...but he left, never to return. That isn't the feeling I would like MB to have for newcomers, because I want MB to offer people a meaningful way to explore and share mutual interests in music and communicating about it (and other things, too).

By Golly, boo boo, I was planning to try to officially befriend the guy here on MB because I felt we had found common ground...not much, perhaps, but some (I expected him to reject the offer, but one never knows!). I suppose knowing he was an atheist Iowan such as myself who loves cats and (some) music and dislikes hypocrisy made me especially interested in him...and I felt sorry that people kept thinking he was trolling when he posted in my songwriting thread, although I didn't feel he was. I do think it is interesting that I feel concern about the fairness of the process leading to The Unfan's permabanning, just like he, apparently, felt concern about a previous member's banning.

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