Argh, I don't feel too good

FETCHER. · 04-02-2010, 08:51 AM

I usually just sleep hangovers off, as hard as it may be to fall asleep, force yourself. And however ****ty the sleep is, it's done me many a favour when I've had a hangover. I had a slight hangover today, and I slept it off, now I feel wonderful

It was a pathetic hangover though to be honest.

right-track · 04-02-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

I'm good enough to take care of my own now, I think. Extra emotional sounds descriptive although for me, it's mostly been in the shape of worrying. I read up on withdrawal and it seems I indeed am in the danger zone of experiencing withdrawal symptoms and I've experienced more or less everything in the mild symptoms group. I had some mild to moderate symptoms like sweating, insomnia, rapid heart rate, nausea and loss of appetite - the last two seem a little hard to shake.

What bothers me the most is "difficulty with thinking clearly". I don't mind so much feeling a bit physically ill as long as I'm clear in my head. Right now, I can't even be arsed with playing video games because it's just too much of a mental challenge. I think reasonably okay, but the processing of information and sensory input is noticeably slow.

I didn't want to scare you earlier Tore (especially when it's hard to assess someone on the net) but the symptoms you were describing had all the signs of alcohol dependency and the withdrawal process.
By now you obviously recognise that.
At least you haven't had a seizure...yet.

No more binge drinking Tore!

VEGANGELICA · 04-02-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

Heya guys!

A few days ago, on monday, I got really drunk.

Now it's thursday, I still feel like I have a hangover. On tuesday, I was just woozy. I was still a little drunk most of that day, I think. During the night to wednesday, I started getting worse - couldn't get much sleep and woke up feeling real woozy, even worse than tuesday and I don't want to eat anything and I couldn't even be arsed to browse the forums because it took more concentration than I was able to conjure up. Light aches in much of the stomach, the thought of food does not appeal. Now it's thursday and I'm just a tiny bit better .. At least I'm posting!

But it's still pretty bad when I'm up and about, so I'm gonna stick to the couch.

So what is this? Did I just get too much and it takes a while to detoxify? A normal night out usually doesn't make me feel like this, but maybe I overstepped some threshold? Could it be alcohol withdrawal? I figure some of you guys have more experience with this sort of stuff than I do.

If I ever feel good again, I'm gonna give up the booze. I mean it this time!

Tore, your whole description of your reaction to the alcohol in your system is very scary to me. I think people's advice about seeing your own doctor or *any* doctor, plus trying to eat *healthful* food, avoid all drugs, drink a lot of water, and sleep, sound reasonable, though I am not at all an expert on alcohol, having avoided it most of my life.

I understand you would be worried about the cumulative effects of alcohol on your brain. I would be, too. The reality is that these fears are justified, since alcohol causes permanent brain changes and damage, with long-term use leading to mental confusion and persistent learning and memory problems.

ALCOHOL'S DAMAGING EFFECTS ON THE BRAIN

Chronic Alcohol Consumption and Withdrawal Do Not Induce Cell Death in the Suprachiasmatic Nucleus, But Lead to Irreversible Depression of Peptide Immunoreactivity and mRNA Levels -- Madeira et al. 17 (4): 1302 -- Journal of Neuroscience

My question for you and others who have drunk or drink a lot of alcohol, is this: what exactly is the lure or draw of alcohol for you? What is alcohol giving you that you feel you don't have without it?

The only times I drank alcohol (back in college) led to me being tipsy, depressed, tired, and less out-going. I remember having to turn my thoughts inward to accomplish simple things. For example, walking through a bar to go to the bathroom, I'd be saying to myself: "Okay, you are walking down the hall now. Now you have to grasp the knob and turn it. You can do it!" etc. Also, my math skills plummeted. Then, at home, with head spinning, I'd just get depressed and sleepy. This only had to happen twice for me to say I didn't want that anymore, and I never drank again.

So, I've never figured out what causes people to want to drink, given the immediate effects it produces (in me) and the long-term negative effects I know alcohol has on the body's and brain's health.

I always feel more light-hearted and sociable without alcohol. Do most of you feel the reverse...that alcohol makes things more fun?

lucifer_sam · 04-02-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Tore, your whole description of your reaction to the alcohol in your system is very scary to me. I think people's advice about seeing your own doctor or *any* doctor, plus trying to eat *healthful* food, avoid all drugs, drink a lot of water, and sleep, sound reasonable, though I am not at all an expert on alcohol, having avoided it most of my life.

I understand you would be worried about the cumulative effects of alcohol on your brain. I would be, too. The reality is that these fears are justified, since alcohol causes permanent brain changes and damage, with long-term use leading to mental confusion and persistent learning and memory problems.

ALCOHOL'S DAMAGING EFFECTS ON THE BRAIN

Chronic Alcohol Consumption and Withdrawal Do Not Induce Cell Death in the Suprachiasmatic Nucleus, But Lead to Irreversible Depression of Peptide Immunoreactivity and mRNA Levels -- Madeira et al. 17 (4): 1302 -- Journal of Neuroscience

My question for you and others who have drunk or drink a lot of alcohol, is this: what exactly is the lure or draw of alcohol for you? What is alcohol giving you that you feel you don't have without it?

The only times I drank alcohol (back in college) led to me being tipsy, depressed, tired, and less out-going. I remember having to turn my thoughts inward to accomplish simple things. For example, walking through a bar to go to the bathroom, I'd be saying to myself: "Okay, you are walking down the hall now. Now you have to grasp the knob and turn it. You can do it!" etc. Also, my math skills plummeted. Then, at home, with head spinning, I'd just get depressed and sleepy. This only had to happen twice for me to say I didn't want that anymore, and I never drank again.

So, I've never figured out what causes people to want to drink, given the immediate effects it produces (in me) and the long-term negative effects I know alcohol has on the body's and brain's health.

I always feel more light-hearted and sociable without alcohol. Do most of you feel the reverse...that alcohol makes things more fun?

It's a social lubricant, not that difficult to figure out. Your experiences probably put you in the very slim minority here. Most people are more outgoing, friendly, and willing to engage in foreign situations than they would be without the influence of alcohol.

I don't particularly like being drunk, but drinking affords me the opportunity to "loosen the gears," so to speak. I rarely if ever have more than a beer or two if I don't intend on going out.

VEGANGELICA · 04-02-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

It's a social lubricant, not that difficult to figure out. Your experiences probably put you in the very slim minority here. Most people are more outgoing, friendly, and willing to engage in foreign situations than they would be without the influence of alcohol.

I don't particularly like being drunk, but drinking affords me the opportunity to "loosen the gears," so to speak. I rarely if ever have more than a beer or two if I don't intend on going out.

Hmm...alcohol is a social lubricant.

You've been friendly to me lately. Are you drinking?

Well, I guess I am in the minority again...as always. Sober and silly. Teetotalling and talkative. Alcohol does just make me anti-social. Maybe if I drank, I'd just type this:

"Get the **** away from me."

duga · 04-02-2010, 02:16 PM

It definitely makes social situations more of an "event", so to say. The best drinking nights I have are when I'm out with a group of my friends just shooting the ****. We start it slow, and after a couple beers I notice that my conversation is flowing much more easily. Same with everyone else. Usually it ends there...everyone is a bit sloshed, we have a great time just hanging. Sometimes, though, the drinks start flowing a bit more and then we start to get crazy ideas (and everything sounds like a good idea when you are drunk). That is when I end up those nights that make for great stories.

Sure, stupid stuff happens...but it's really funny later. Things would be so boring without those stories.

Guybrush · 04-02-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Tore, your whole description of your reaction to the alcohol in your system is very scary to me. I think people's advice about seeing your own doctor or *any* doctor, plus trying to eat *healthful* food, avoid all drugs, drink a lot of water, and sleep, sound reasonable, though I am not at all an expert on alcohol, having avoided it most of my life.

I understand you would be worried about the cumulative effects of alcohol on your brain. I would be, too. The reality is that these fears are justified, since alcohol causes permanent brain changes and damage, with long-term use leading to mental confusion and persistent learning and memory problems.

ALCOHOL'S DAMAGING EFFECTS ON THE BRAIN

Chronic Alcohol Consumption and Withdrawal Do Not Induce Cell Death in the Suprachiasmatic Nucleus, But Lead to Irreversible Depression of Peptide Immunoreactivity and mRNA Levels -- Madeira et al. 17 (4): 1302 -- Journal of Neuroscience

My question for you and others who have drunk or drink a lot of alcohol, is this: what exactly is the lure or draw of alcohol for you? What is alcohol giving you that you feel you don't have without it?

The only times I drank alcohol (back in college) led to me being tipsy, depressed, tired, and less out-going. I remember having to turn my thoughts inward to accomplish simple things. For example, walking through a bar to go to the bathroom, I'd be saying to myself: "Okay, you are walking down the hall now. Now you have to grasp the knob and turn it. You can do it!" etc. Also, my math skills plummeted. Then, at home, with head spinning, I'd just get depressed and sleepy. This only had to happen twice for me to say I didn't want that anymore, and I never drank again.

So, I've never figured out what causes people to want to drink, given the immediate effects it produces (in me) and the long-term negative effects I know alcohol has on the body's and brain's health.

I always feel more light-hearted and sociable without alcohol. Do most of you feel the reverse...that alcohol makes things more fun?

Don't scare me any more right now, please .. I'm in a vulnerable state.

I am serious about giving up drinking, at least liquor and getting really drunk. I'm gonna try and stick to a few beers the rare times I'm out after this. Physical dependance on alcohol is just not an option for me in my life. Truth is I don't drink that often, it's more a problem with the amount I do drink when it first happens. Lately, it's been a lot and a bit often and this is the result. It's not worth the worrying, nor the feeling like crap bits.

**Janszoon** · 04-02-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

My question for you and others who have drunk or drink a lot of alcohol, is this: what exactly is the lure or draw of alcohol for you? What is alcohol giving you that you feel you don't have without it?

Well, basically, it's relaxing and it's a social thing. I can, and certainly do, relax and socialize without it, but it's just a different experience.

Guybrush · 04-03-2010, 07:05 AM

About drinking's appeal to me, I just feel great when I'm drunk. The drunker I am, the happier I am, basically, and the more fun I have with others too, although I can be happily drunk on my own. There have been occasions where I've gotten really drunk on my own and just listened to music and had a great time.

Bad habits

About to change though.

~~salty_rock~~ · 04-03-2010, 11:22 AM

bananas and gatorade are a sure fire hangover cure

04-02-2010, 02:16 PM	#36 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	It definitely makes social situations more of an "event", so to say. The best drinking nights I have are when I'm out with a group of my friends just shooting the ****. We start it slow, and after a couple beers I notice that my conversation is flowing much more easily. Same with everyone else. Usually it ends there...everyone is a bit sloshed, we have a great time just hanging. Sometimes, though, the drinks start flowing a bit more and then we start to get crazy ideas (and everything sounds like a good idea when you are drunk). That is when I end up those nights that make for great stories. Sure, stupid stuff happens...but it's really funny later. Things would be so boring without those stories. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

04-03-2010, 07:05 AM	#39 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	About drinking's appeal to me, I just feel great when I'm drunk. The drunker I am, the happier I am, basically, and the more fun I have with others too, although I can be happily drunk on my own. There have been occasions where I've gotten really drunk on my own and just listened to music and had a great time. Bad habits About to change though. __________________ Something Completely Different

04-03-2010, 11:22 AM	#40 (permalink)
~~salty_rock~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 0	bananas and gatorade are a sure fire hangover cure