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holdyoualways · 06-10-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

The true hero for the disabled was Hawking. He carried on his work even though he was ill with motor neurone disease.
The disabled community as a whole, doesnt hold Reeve in that high regard compared to Hawking and Tanny Grey for example.

if i knew who you were talking about, id agree with you. but since i have no clue who hawking is, ill stick with chris.

Kurt_Cobain · 06-10-2005, 11:04 AM

Hawking is a space cosmos expert who was struck down with motor neurone disease, which eventually paralyses and kills you. Hawking wasn't meant to live past 21 but he's 60 something now.
He never complained about his disability, instead getting on with his life and becoming one of the greatest minds in science.
Please do not comment on who the disabled hold in high regard if you yourself are not disabled, it pisses me off. Especially if the only disabled person you can name is your 'superman'

holdyoualways · 06-10-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

Hawking is a space cosmos expert who was struck down with motor neurone disease, which eventually paralyses and kills you. Hawking wasn't meant to live past 21 but he's 60 something now.
He never complained about his disability, instead getting on with his life and becoming one of the greatest minds in science.
Please do not comment on who the disabled hold in high regard if you yourself are not disabled, it pisses me off. Especially if the only disabled person you can name is your 'superman'

no i can name plenty of other disabled people. but theyre not rich and famous. theyre people you wouldnt know. but good on that guy for being alive and kicking.

phoenixflames · 06-10-2005, 09:52 PM

To me (I'm not disabled though), Steven Hawking is one of the brightest, and best individuals of our age. I really look up to the guy and read alot of his material (I love to study cosmology). He's a great thinker, and like it has been mentioned, he never gripes about his problems, he just goes on and does what he can in life.

Josephine · 06-11-2005, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance

I completely agree with that. I dont see why these people should be considered heroes just because they've been on TV. Like you say, Hawking actually had a reason to be admired, he kept going with everything and tried not to let his disability get in his way.
Its like the Kylie thing, when she was diagnosed with breast cancer... People die of that far too often for Kylie to be getting all the attention shes getting now. I saw an ad the other day saying "Help Kylie's cancer, pick up a cancer awareness bracelet today"...
There are people far more deserving of all this attention and respect, but because these people are on TV, they're more important.

I totally agree with your statement. I was confronted with cancer in my closer family and it was (and still is) very hard to deal with it. But you have to go on and fact is: It happens every day to - much too many - people. All of them have to live with this problem. It's ridiculous that people are suddenly interested in cancer or disability just because it happens to a famous person!
But at least these persons make people aware of the cruelity that exists on this planet. If it makes people donate for organisations and foundations, then it hepls, doesn't it?

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 06-11-2005, 06:47 AM

Yeah, its great they're helping these people who have the money do pay for it all themselves with no problem at all, who cares about all the people who cant afford it and are dying as we speak? Jeez, they never got on TV did they, what did they do for society...

Just so we're clear, its the topic at hand that gets me pissed off... That outburst isnt directed at any of you.

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ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,537	Yeah, its great they're helping these people who have the money do pay for it all themselves with no problem at all, who cares about all the people who cant afford it and are dying as we speak? Jeez, they never got on TV did they, what did they do for society... Just so we're clear, its the topic at hand that gets me pissed off... That outburst isnt directed at any of you. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!