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~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Taking responsibility isn’t posting **** online. It’s supporting yourself not living in a grouphome like retarded people do. I take responsibility when I pay my rent. You’ve been officially determined unable to be responsible for yourself lol

But you can repeat your rhetoric. Too bad you’ve never lived it.

.. I left home at 19. I'm 32. I'm temporarily here to save money cause the rent is cheap. Nobody is forcing me to be here. I just know that I will get legal quicker paying 300$ in rent as opposed to 650$. It's no different than renting a room, and yes, before I was homeless I always had my own apartment. That's why I made this decision. Because I know it's a smarter option financially with how much money I owe.

**Frownland** · 10-26-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

lol I’ve been making it since I was 18 son

college traveled the world became a tenured teacher survived my career disaster

No homelessness no jail no sad little group homes

take responsibility for never achieving anything dude

your life is a ****fest lol

Lmao, you gonna tell him to pull himself up by his bootstraps next? And I know you rely on that retard group ****, so quit fronting.

The Batlord · 10-26-2019, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

not really

I know I'm a bad person. But I'm going with what has worked for me so far. So far my life has improved by trying to give a **** so I'm going with that until further notice.

No advice you've ever given me does anything other than enable my evil and cynical side. I'm making a conscious effort to avoid that, because I know that the old me is still alive underneath it all.

It wasn't without substance, you just reject the message

Every time someone either offers a criticism or even positive advice, you rationalize why "it's not worth it anyhow"

Hence sour grapes. That fable describes your mentality perfectly.

Hence why I can't take you seriously when you shrug off being an adult cause "adults cause war, man" and romanticize being a philosopher or artist while making no attempt to do either.

It's just another convenient rationalization, you don't even believe it.

The adult thing was brought up cause you questioned the value of work ethic/being able to endure. Something which, if you ever had to worry about bills, you might understand the importance of.

Alright then.

1. Do you think that humanity historically has embraced ideas of "adulthood" such as taking responsibility for your life, working hard, and leaving aside the bad aspects of society to an extent to concentrate on the good for the sake of being a part of that society and not rocking the boat?

2. Do you think that this idea of being an adult has enabled people in power to do as they please by virtue of adults not challenging those in power in order to easily live in society?

3. Do you think that philosophers and artists contribute to culture in a way that runs counter to how most adults relate to society?

OccultHawk · 10-26-2019, 05:05 PM

HAWK WINS AGAIN!

Chula Vista · 10-26-2019, 05:06 PM

Bummer, no orange cookies. Ordered online and they called to tell me. Asked the girl straight out: "I can't drink anymore so I want the best damn buzz you have"

Mmmmmm.... Alien Rock Candy!

And a 35% off sale!

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2019, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Alright then.

1. Do you think that humanity historically has embraced ideas of "adulthood" such as taking responsibility for your life, working hard, and leaving aside the bad aspects of society to an extent to concentrate on the good for the sake of being a part of that society and not rocking the boat?

The way I see it, they value adulthood because adults are useful, reliable, accountable, and self sufficient.

It's almost the same as valuing something like honesty... It primarily affects the way you can interact and cooperate with said individual.

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2. Do you think that this idea of being an adult has enabled people in power to do as they please by virtue of adults not challenging those in power in order to easily live in society?

No. I believe power dynamics are derived from actual strategic leverage rather than abstract concepts.

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3. Do you think that philosophers and artists contribute to culture in a way that runs counter to how most adults relate to society?

sometimes, yea. But usually they suffer as a result and thus transform that suffering into art.

If you sheltered them and provided everything they needed, God only knows what they would do differently.

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2019, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

HAWK WINS AGAIN!

mhmm... It's all circumstance anyway. And circumstance is a social construct.

The Batlord · 10-26-2019, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

The way I see it, they value adulthood because adults are useful, reliable, accountable, and self sufficient.

It's almost the same as valuing something like honesty... It primarily affects the way you can interact and cooperate with said individual.

No. I believe power dynamics are derived from actual strategic leverage rather than abstract concepts.

sometimes, yea. But usually they suffer as a result and thus transform that suffering into art.

If you sheltered them and provided everything they needed, God only knows what they would do differently.

So you don't think that a fundamental part of being an adult is accepting the society you live in regardless of that society's nature?

I bring that up because I think that is exactly what allowed the German people to live in the Third Reich. I think that is exactly what allowed for people in the South to live in a slave owning society. And I think that every empire that has ever existed has needed this trait to have their population accept the morality of their society militarily occupying another society.

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2019, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

so very few successful people don't have a support system

even if it's someone you can borrow $300 from I'm a pinch

.. kinda irrelevant

The idea circumstance doesn't matter at all is not the only alternative to everything being sheer circumstance

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2019, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So you don't think that a fundamental part of being an adult is accepting the society you live in regardless of that society's nature?

I bring that up because I think that is exactly what allowed the German people to live in the Third Reich. I think that is exactly what allowed for people in the South to live in a slave owning society. And I think that every empire that has ever existed has needed this trait to have their population accept the morality of their society militarily occupying another society.

I don't think this really has anything to do with the concept of adulthood, no

Children in the third Reich were expected to be Nazis. Children in the south were taught slaves were subhuman.

That has more to do with existing in a given society at all than it has to do with being treated as an adult.

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