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Old 11-12-2021, 05:54 PM   #80031 (permalink)
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 11-13-2021, 09:47 AM   #80032 (permalink)
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You know, I think you should take more things into consideration before making such bold statements.

You see, Poland (or any country for that matter) is a pretty abstract concept, a mixture of territory, government, the army, the culture and the people.

Now of course the current polish government is someone we should all agree to **** and kick out of anything, but by saying you’d „love” Poland to be kicked out of the EU you’re forgetting about the people.

Governments change, but the people have to live with previous governments decisions.
By kicking out Poland, you’d also be kicking out me, my parents, my friends, my dog, and all the other people who protest, vote against, or just do not agree with the L&J policies.

In the last presidential elections, the results were pretty much 50/50, with the morronic current president winning just by 200K votes (it was 10M to 10M200K).

So as you can see the polish society is not really sold on this **** they’re doing.
Now last year, the former PM who was the president of the European Council for 4 years came back from Brussels, as this sort of Knight in White Armor, to make „things right”. And with his return to polish politics hopefully the tides will change.

By saying „**** Poland” you’re basicaly saying „**** Mucha and the 20M like-minded people” as well as the current government and the 20M morrons who want them to rule.

So, you know, just chill out, Poland isn’t Hungary or Belarus yet. The society is just lost in the new world it wants to belong to
Well thanks for the insight, I'm happy to hear Poland isn't a totally lost cause as I thought it was!

I know there are lots of reasonable, intelligent and progressive people in Poland, but that's the case also with Hungary, and Belarus. And Israel too! Does that mean the world shouldn't do anything about the regressive and/or abusive policies made by the governments voted on by the majority of the people?

My point isn't to punish the normal elements in the country but to discourage the regressive/Eurosceptic ones by showing them the consequences of their line of thinking.
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Old 11-13-2021, 10:14 AM   #80033 (permalink)
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Old 11-13-2021, 11:40 AM   #80034 (permalink)
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My point isn't to punish the normal elements in the country but to discourage the regressive/Eurosceptic ones by showing them the consequences of their line of thinking.
Again, it doesn’t work like that.
As soon as an international entity wants to sanction a specific government, that same government uses this as an excuse to make more Black propaganda towards that international entity.

„You see?! That’s what i was Talking about this whole time! EU is evil and wants to strip us from money that’s rightfully ours! Vote for me! I’m the only one who can stand up to those imperialist pigs!”

Such things are just a matter of delicacy, and no 1-0 solutions are good
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Old 11-13-2021, 11:42 AM   #80035 (permalink)
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Well thanks for the insight, I'm happy to hear Poland isn't a totally lost cause as I thought it was!

I know there are lots of reasonable, intelligent and progressive people in Poland, but that's the case also with Hungary, and Belarus. And Israel too! Does that mean the world shouldn't do anything about the regressive and/or abusive policies made by the governments voted on by the majority of the people?

My point isn't to punish the normal elements in the country but to discourage the regressive/Eurosceptic ones by showing them the consequences of their line of thinking.
So are we giving the rest of Europe a pass for their ****?
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Old 11-13-2021, 07:30 PM   #80036 (permalink)
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Well thanks for the insight, I'm happy to hear Poland isn't a totally lost cause as I thought it was!

I know there are lots of reasonable, intelligent and progressive people in Poland, but that's the case also with Hungary, and Belarus. And Israel too! Does that mean the world shouldn't do anything about the regressive and/or abusive policies made by the governments voted on by the majority of the people?

My point isn't to punish the normal elements in the country but to discourage the regressive/Eurosceptic ones by showing them the consequences of their line of thinking.
you say this **** like the EU is the only game in town.... You will just push them closer to putin imo
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Old 11-14-2021, 04:22 PM   #80037 (permalink)
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Yes....but you might have to get me drunk before they come out!


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One of my best friend's father passed away today. We were close. He had terminal cancer but we all thought he had a few more years left. One of the nicest human beings I've ever met. My friend is an active Navy Seal and we were worried something might happen while he was away but his father held on long enough for him to get back and spend about 24 hours at his bedside. He was conscious and they were able to share the final moments of his life together. I don't know what that's like. I can only imagine.

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Old 11-15-2021, 02:37 AM   #80038 (permalink)
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Yes....but you might have to get me drunk before they come out!
Shouldn't be too hard tbh.
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Old 11-15-2021, 03:54 AM   #80039 (permalink)
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Yes....but you might have to get me drunk before they come out!




I've heard that about you. You get drunk, they come out... Probably should consider wearing a tighter bra?
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Old 11-15-2021, 07:43 AM   #80040 (permalink)
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OMG Lisnaholic I am so glad to see you're still here! I am very pleased to be back, it's taken me time to get past the fear of returning with being with an abusive person many years ago. MB is always my family no matter what's going on. Yes I am very well, how are you? I have been in a 3 month lockdown which is just ending so there's that going on.
Thanks Celladorina ! It's great to hear from you again too. I'm very sorry you had to go through that misery with an abusive person: nobody needs that in their life.
I'm fine thanks. No covid scares among my friends and family, and I have been lucky enough to have been working online ever since the schools physically closed here in March 2019. So, yeah, super lucky.
Congrats too, on the performance of your homeland: a model of how to cope with covid.
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