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Old 04-14-2022, 10:12 PM   #80681 (permalink)
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The real answer is yeahi think i made a post or two in that thread.

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Old 04-14-2022, 10:18 PM   #80682 (permalink)
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One thing that's had me wondering...would the Western powers be better off with Putin in power or someone else? Part of me thinks if he remains in power, the sanctions will remain and their military will be handicapped for the rest of his tenure, limiting any ambitions of future adventures like this. If he is ousted, the short-term might be better, but the sanctions will probably lifted sooner too - if the new leader has the appearance of being Western-friendly but then turns out to be a snake with the same nationalist sympathies as Putin, we might end up in the same situation. I'm undecided.
i mean i dunno i think if the fall of the soviet union proved anything, it's that we'll end up being enemies regardless.

At the end of the day though if ukraine went to nato that would potentially bankrupt Russia through the necessary increase in military spending to shore up that border.

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Old 04-15-2022, 04:53 AM   #80683 (permalink)
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i mean i dunno i think if the fall of the soviet union proved anything, it's that we'll end up being enemies regardless.

At the end of the day though if ukraine went to nato that would potentially bankrupt Russia through the necessary increase in military spending to shore up that border.
I think it only takes one NATO member to dissent on a prospective new member's admittance into NATO to stop it from happening - France and Germany refusing Ukraine's NATO membership in recent years - still a lot of political corruption going on in Ukraine. Can Zelensky change that? Maybe.

As you say, not only is Ukraine a key geopolitical bulwark against NATO from Russia's perspective (along with CSTO member Belarus), but it's also how much of Russian gas gets to Europe - and Russia is basically a petrostate.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:42 AM   #80684 (permalink)
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That would've been less true with nordstream i think but yeah... They have multiple reasons. The naval base in crimea was one of the main reasons they annexed that area in 2014, and technically any kinda territory dispute like that makes it so that Ukraine can't join nato until that is resolved. But in the meantime Ukraine was only going to get stronger, better armed and harder to invade the longer they waited.
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Old 04-15-2022, 09:11 AM   #80685 (permalink)
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my comeback post lol

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What's up with jwb? He used to have the most interesting days of anyone on here
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Old 04-15-2022, 12:36 PM   #80686 (permalink)
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That's very nice of you to say

I log on from time to time but i haven't been posting as much. No real reason just haven't had much to say.

Today my tire blew out while i was on my way to the gas station on break. My supervisor came to help me since i said i didn't have a jack but i had a donut. My coworker was drinking a beer and i was smoking out of my bowl and we weren't even worried cause the supervisor is some 23 year old stoner. And we took like an hour and a half instead of a half hour cause of the tire. Now I'm about to hit em with i need to leave early after last break since i wanna get that new tire put on tonight.
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Old 04-15-2022, 02:58 PM   #80687 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:02 PM   #80688 (permalink)
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it's true that jwb's your day posts are top tier
sounds like a pretty wholesome work environment
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Guy walking around dressed as the Easter Bunny this evening. Don't think he was stoned either. Might try to upload the video later (yes I took video) if anyone's interested. The kids loved him. He was being led around by some girl as obviously he couldn't see with the giant rabbit head on! Fair play to him though. Great for the kids.
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:06 PM   #80690 (permalink)
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Guy walking around dressed as the Easter Bunny this evening. Don't think he was stoned either. Might try to upload the video later (yes I took video) if anyone's interested. The kids loved him. He was being led around by some girl as obviously he couldn't see with the giant rabbit head on! Fair play to him though. Great for the kids.
Did he look like this guy?

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