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Old 09-21-2022, 05:16 AM   #81331 (permalink)
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I know you hate eachother but that's a cain/able deal. Brits and Irish are pasty cousins with a blood feud.
No it's not. We're Celts and they're not. We're more cousins to the Scots and the Welsh. even a little to the Vikings as so many settled here. But not the English. As distinct from the Brits. Of course, we all come essentially from the same gene pool stock, but then, so do you.
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Wasn't there also a thing where the economic trend at the time for English landowners was to deem potatoes as not lucrative enough so they'd evict all the Irish, raze the plots, and turn it into sheep pastures? So a not insignificant percentage didn't even starve to death but died of exposure cause they were homeless desperately sheltering in ditches?
Quite possibly. Like all events of this nature, there wasn't just the one cause for the famine or our overdependence on spuds.
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Old 09-21-2022, 06:09 AM   #81332 (permalink)
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No it's not. We're Celts and they're not. We're more cousins to the Scots and the Welsh. even a little to the Vikings as so many settled here. But not the English. As distinct from the Brits. Of course, we all come essentially from the same gene pool stock, but then, so do you.
^ Trollheart, of course, knows of what he speaks. There's been a huge historical divide between Celts and English, going back to the Roman conquest approx two thousand years ago. ( Celts fought the Romans, until forced into the hills to the West and North. English bent the knee and huddled in servitude south of Hadrian's Wall.)


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Really the most insulting thing to call them is brits, which to my eye they are basically just a more backwater region of the same pasty breed of imbred island folk, just with more gingers sprinkled in and a touch of catholicism.
^ Not so sure about the accuracy of your description, jwb: "pasty", yes, but "inbred island folk" ? With, at one time, the biggest merchant fleet and biggest empire in the world, Britain was and is more international than you seem to be imagining:-

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Old 09-21-2022, 07:35 AM   #81333 (permalink)
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There was a lot of Irish immigration to the US during the 19th century and, according to the history books anyway, much of it had to do with the potato famine.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:41 AM   #81334 (permalink)
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Well the population is very international but historically these population groups didn't intermarry so it didn't really benefit the genepool. Many English people look inbred for sure lol
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:47 AM   #81335 (permalink)
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There was a lot of Irish immigration to the US during the 19th century and, according to the history books anyway, much of it had to do with the potato famine.
Ah yes the good old coffin ships. With only death from starvation awaiting them at home, thousands of Irish pinned their hopes on a life in the New World. Many died before even reaching American shores, and those that did make it, well, let's just say there may have been a severe shortage of red carpet at that time.

Even so, the Irish very much helped build America, not least the railroad system and especially the TCR.
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Well the population is very international but historically these population groups didn't intermarry so it didn't really benefit the genepool. Many English people look inbred for sure lol
The idea in England of course was to keep marriage within extended families, as you'll see from any Dickens novel: cousins married, sometimes even brothers married sisters. The idea being, I guess, to keep the upper class dominant and ensure there was no intermixing with the lower strata of society, hence why a commoner could not marry a rich person. That of course resulted in a lot of inbreeding, nowhere more than in the royal families.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:51 AM   #81336 (permalink)
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Ah yes the good old coffin ships. With only death from starvation awaiting them at home, thousands of Irish pinned their hopes on a life in the New World. Many died before even reaching American shores, and those that did make it, well, let's just say there may have been a severe shortage of red carpet at that time.

Even so, the Irish very much helped build America, not least the railroad system and especially the TCR.

That's true. The Irish (as well as the Italians, Poles, etc) had to deal with a lot of prejudice and bigotry. But they assimilated and now can proudly be as bigoted as any other red blooded American.

And don't forget they also gave us the Kennedys.
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:56 AM   #81337 (permalink)
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One of my favourite Irish emigration songs...
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:13 AM   #81338 (permalink)
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...not least the railroad system...
We're still working on it too. I had a short stint with GMEMD, which is a firm that designs locomotives.

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Old 09-21-2022, 12:02 PM   #81339 (permalink)
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Dana was in a car accident today.

She's okay physically. Probably not okay mentally. Some sh*thead didn't want to miss her exit so they crossed four lanes of traffic coming out of the Lincoln Tunnel and broadsided her. She spun out and hit the median going 60mph. Counting some blessings right now because that kind of accident ends up with a flipped car and a hospital visit more ofte than not. She has common injuries associated with air bag and collision...scratches and brusies...but the fact that they didn't feel the need to bus her to the hospital is a good sign.

Right now I'm waiting for my business partner to get back. He's on a house call. Can't leave the shop. Sh*t sucks.
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Dana was in a car accident today.

She's okay physically. Probably not okay mentally. Some sh*thead didn't want to miss her exit so they crossed four lanes of traffic coming out of the Lincoln Tunnel and broadsided her. She spun out and hit the median going 60mph. Counting some blessings right now because that kind of accident ends up with a flipped car and a hospital visit more ofte than not. She has common injuries associated with air bag and collision...scratches and brusies...but the fact that they didn't feel the need to bus her to the hospital is a good sign.

Right now I'm waiting for my business partner to get back. He's on a house call. Can't leave the shop. Sh*t sucks.
Jesus Christ, that's scary as hell, glad she's okay!
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