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Old 11-24-2022, 12:38 PM   #81571 (permalink)
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Got to see my mom and stepdad from 1015:am to 115:pm;
happy thanksgiving yall;

I'm microwaving some awesome Uncle Ben's Rice packet for my feast (w/ Tapatío hot sauce);

I am thankful for the 3 hours I got to see my mom and stepdad;

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Old 11-24-2022, 01:37 PM   #81572 (permalink)
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These culture war backlashes are really common and imo a lot of it is manufactured for content.
This is partly true, as in certain topics or events are getting more attention than they should.
But the fact stands that there is a big social problem related to people wanting to come out and live their lives in peace and people who are for whatever reason extremely against what the other group simply is.

I mean, I don't know how it works in the US, but in Poland if you're a politician who openly supports LGBT community in any way, or even acknowledge their existence, you probably won't get elected or you'll have 3 seats in the parliament.

On the other hand, if you're a right wing nationalist and spout nonsense like "LGBT are not people, it's an ideology" (the current president said that during his last campaign) you'll get a standing ovation from at least half of the population.

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I don't doubt crazy people will latch on to it and commit random acts of violence sporadically.
But it does actually happen. It's not like there is no violence against LGBT people based on the fact they're LGBT.
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:42 PM   #81573 (permalink)
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I had my first guitar lesson today

The guy seems a great teacher, though a bit overwhelming at times as – I swear – he's talking at the speed of like 1K words per minute.

I feel very hopeful about this though. I was self taught last 6 years and I've finally decided it's time to freaking move on and start to actually play good.
And I think I haven't ever received this much. musical information in barely 2 hours from anyone in my life.

I was kind of depressed lately, with the moving to Paris thing, feeling alone there and all, but now I feel like the tides are changing and I'm actually going somewhere.

Now the only thing left to do from my checklist is to get a trumpet teacher.





And find myself a band
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Old 11-24-2022, 02:01 PM   #81574 (permalink)
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This is partly true, as in certain topics or events are getting more attention than they should.
But the fact stands that there is a big social problem related to people wanting to come out and live their lives in peace and people who are for whatever reason extremely against what the other group simply is.

I mean, I don't know how it works in the US, but in Poland if you're a politician who openly supports LGBT community in any way, or even acknowledge their existence, you probably won't get elected or you'll have 3 seats in the parliament.

On the other hand, if you're a right wing nationalist and spout nonsense like "LGBT are not people, it's an ideology" (the current president said that during his last campaign) you'll get a standing ovation from at least half of the population.
Admittedly I dunno much about Poland but it seems to me like in the US being trans is more accepted than it was even a decade or 2 ago. There's more haters specifically on that topic because it's getting way more mainstream attention than it used to. It seems like it's pretty clear to me which direction the needle has tended to move in over time.



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But it does actually happen. It's not like there is no violence against LGBT people based on the fact they're LGBT.
I think you misread me. I said I don't doubt it, as in I know it happens. I don't think that is dragging us closer to genocide. I think mass shootings of all varieties are just a common thing now.
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Old 11-24-2022, 05:57 PM   #81575 (permalink)
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I'm well aware of the groomer **** but I feel like that's just a reaction to it becoming normalized in society. The same kind of thing was much more openly espoused about gays in the past. So it seems a bit off to me to read that as the preliminary signs of a genocide. These culture war backlashes are really common and imo a lot of it is manufactured for content.

I don't doubt crazy people will latch on to it and commit random acts of violence sporadically. That is where we are as a country and have been for some time.
Yes moral panics are common, but they also sometimes lead to genocide. You probably don't get genocides without moral panics. If the US continues to putter along the way it's being going for decades then this moral panic eventually dies down and goes back to low heat simmering resentments, but I'm not really seeing a never-ending status quo for the future.

Climate change, degrading economic returns, and social media conspiracy culture are getting worse and eventually there may be a breaking point and then all of this grooming **** as a release valve for so many people's anxieties about the state of the world could be the next Jewish "stabbed in the back" hysteria.
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Old 11-24-2022, 07:11 PM   #81576 (permalink)
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Maybe all genocide is preceded by some type of moral panic, but the vast majority of moral panic doesn't lead to anything approaching genocide.

So it's fine to cite a moral panic as a threat to a group but it's important to note that threat can fall way short of genocide. A moral panic in and of itself obviously isn't enough to say there's warnings of genocide in my book.

It seems to me you are appealing to a vague doomerish sense of impending instability which could lead to xyz.... I can see an equally plausible case for impending genocide against jews, (hispanic) immigrants, black people, etc... all with mass shootings and crazy rhetoric to back them up.

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Old 11-24-2022, 09:31 PM   #81577 (permalink)
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Maybe all genocide is preceded by some type of moral panic, but the vast majority of moral panic doesn't lead to anything approaching genocide.

So it's fine to cite a moral panic as a threat to a group but it's important to note that threat can fall way short of genocide. A moral panic in and of itself obviously isn't enough to say there's warnings of genocide in my book.

It seems to me you are appealing to a vague doomerish sense of impending instability which could lead to xyz.... I can see an equally plausible case for impending genocide against jews, (hispanic) immigrants, black people, etc... all with mass shootings and crazy rhetoric to back them up.
Yeah you're agreeing with me your framing is just dismissive. And the level of targeted rhetoric against other groups isn't currently at the same level. Nobody's looking at a mass shooting of black people and saying well as long as black people are showing their underwear there's going to be violence.
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Dismissive of the impending genocide, yes. I don't believe.
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People do blame the jews for antisemitic violence too. They spurred it on with the whole owning the banks and media. That kind of ****. You might be overthinking the next holocaust thinking it's gotta be some updated trans version when the classic still sells.
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Bro you don't have Tucker Carlson having guests talking about Jewish bankers but they do say that so long as gay and trans people are grooming kids there will be violence. Tim Pool doesn't post Tweets like this to his 1.4 million followers about Jews.

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