Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

**Frownland** · 05-02-2017, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

The fact you feel the need to add some extra layer of analogy and explanation is pretty sad. It's a genuine inequality that is pre-historic and barbaric. No need for anything else.

Analogy is a good way to help people realize that they are mirror versions of the things they hate (in this case, hyperbolic SJWs).

**Goofle** · 05-02-2017, 06:22 PM

It doesn't really apply when what is being presented is simply a fact. Would be nice to see equality under the law but whatever etc.

The Batlord · 05-02-2017, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

The fact you feel the need to add some extra layer of analogy and explanation is pretty sad. It's a genuine inequality that is pre-historic and barbaric. No need for anything else.

The fact that you need to equate the two says that either you don't give a **** about the one, or you feel the need to give a **** so strongly about the other that you'll warp your brain however you need to

**Frownland** · 05-02-2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

It doesn't really apply when what is being presented is simply a fact. Would be nice to see equality under the law but whatever etc.

It's more about being tactless than the content of what you're saying. You know very well how much I agree with you on circumcision. Whininess is just annoying.

DwnWthVwls · 05-02-2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

It's science that tells us now that gender roles as we think of them, this black and white either or structure, is not at all how humans work naturally, it's learned behavior (though it's been obvious to people for a long time)

That model was developed when Science thought electroshock therapy could cure homosexuality

Natural science only observes differences between biological sex, not gender.. You can blame social sciences for that (unless you have some examples I'm unaware of?).. but if people want to go around acting like differences in biological sex aren't better suited for different things because they think there is something inherently wrong with that, even though it exists in every other species, than plead their case. Probably best suited for another existing thread though. It's an interesting topic.

FTR, before Chula gets offended, I use proper pronouns, support LGBT+ rights, and wouldn't mind gender neutral bathrooms. I assume these nuggets of compassion will get overlooked by my crass attitude though.

**Goofle** · 05-02-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

The fact that you need to equate the two says that either you don't give a **** about the one, or you feel the need to give a **** so strongly about the other that you'll warp your brain however you need to

Dude, don't be so massively idiotic. Obviously I think both are barbaric and should be illegal. Wanting BOTH to be illegal is the only morally sound opinion (and yes I know you agree with me Frown, I have no beef with you here).

**Goofle** · 05-02-2017, 06:42 PM

No, It's quite literally an equal rights issue. Neither should be legal. Finished.

**Goofle** · 05-02-2017, 06:45 PM

If you wanna talk about the eradication of Government I am open to it. But whilst we still have them, it's simply an equal rights issue.

DwnWthVwls · 05-02-2017, 06:46 PM

I don't see how severity of the damage makes something more or less an equal rights issue. It either is or it is not a violation of rights (there is no grey area here, there are only 2 positions you can possibly take). If one groups rights are protected and the other groups are not, its an inequality.. Stop over complicating things.

Just for arguments sake, what would you need to have done to your penis for it to be a equal rights issue?

**Goofle** · 05-02-2017, 06:48 PM

You would think it would be that simple.