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Old 12-05-2017, 12:26 PM   #1351 (permalink)
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I don't remember exactly, just that I was actually defending the person who said it rather than attacking and he just lashed out on me because he doesn't like me. I don't know. I thought it was a funny comment for what ever reason. People on that forum have said some fairly ****ed up **** to me. It's usually sparked over something petty too. One thing that was really enjoyable was just calling people haters. Just that one simple phrase has set soooo many of those juggalos off.
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:30 PM   #1352 (permalink)
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Oh so not on MB then?
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:16 PM   #1353 (permalink)
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my posts on this page were in response to jwb removed posts not Goofle
Then I apologize for my assumptions and redact my harsh words.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:20 PM   #1354 (permalink)
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Ten bucks says it was Faygoluvers.
Did the mention of juggalos give it away? You're such a super brilliant detective aren't you? Here's a golden star!

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Old 12-06-2017, 05:51 PM   #1355 (permalink)
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Not a MRA issue exactly, but one that gets at the toxic masculinity elements of some of the discussions in this thread. I'm fortunately in a relationship at the moment, but I've had certainly experience long bouts of 'touch isolation' - this article puts into words so many of the nebulous things I felt during those times:

How a Lack of Touch is Destroying Men
Pennsylvania lawmaker calls fellow rep gay after he touched his arm - CNNPolitics
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:47 PM   #1356 (permalink)
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Old 12-15-2017, 08:59 AM   #1357 (permalink)
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If you think there's such a thing as "toxic masculinity" could you kindly f*ck off?

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A simple google search would show you "toxic masculinity" and "man" are not interchangeable. Ideas such that men must always want sex, that you're not a real man if you haven't been in a fight, that men can't enjoy art or love or "softer" things without being a homosexual, etc. This what we mean.

Are there idiots who extrapolate those characteristics as being inherent to men? Yes. ARE THEY IDIOTS? ALSO YES.

The article I posted was arguing against the social convention that touch from and among men must inherently sexualized. The world would be better for everyone if platonic touch for men became a social norm. You should be in favor of this. I'd step away from the Stephen Molyneaux videos for a bit and examine the rational, non-hysterical social and gender arguments out there. At the very least, you'd stop with the kneejerk reactions to terms that you a) don't understand and b) actually support your broader aims.

Lucem and Frownland nailed it, thanks dudes.

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Old 12-15-2017, 09:24 AM   #1358 (permalink)
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In regards to the topic - because we got our rights, just like how white people in America already got theirs. Saying "we demand more rights" is basically saying you miss being as oppressive as you were 70, 80, 90 years ago when women and colored people were even bigger minorities and even had separate rights. In less spoken terms, women and minorities still do have separate rights, so that's why. In a nutshell, it's ludicrous.
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In regards to the topic - because we got our rights, just like how white people in America already got theirs. Saying "we demand more rights" is basically saying you miss being as oppressive as you were 70, 80, 90 years ago when women and colored people were even bigger minorities and even had separate rights. In less spoken terms, women and minorities still do have separate rights, so that's why. In a nutshell, it's ludicrous.
Not it isn't.. wow. You sound like the people that argue people in America have no right to complain because people in Africa are worse off.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:20 PM   #1360 (permalink)
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nah he's just made the point that's been made a dozen times over it's tone deaf for the dominant class to complain about rights

women's rights, African American rights, these were/are movements about striving to have just the same amount of rights as the white male
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