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Old 06-08-2018, 05:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If you want the best answer to your question you’re likely to find.

For a take on dropping out solo there’s “The Man Who Quit Money”

I also found the book Into the Wild inspirational

If you can find it Hippycore Zines by this guy


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Trying to live outside the economy either alone or communally, according to everything I’ve read, is ****ing brutal.

1) almost everything in America is legally structured to make it as close to impossible as possible

2) supply and demand works against you : ****loads of people want what you’re talking about so space in a self-sustaining outsider community is precious

If everybody is offering heart you gotta offer more than heart

And once you’re competing for skills it’s just a reorganization of the f uckhery we already have

It seems like you’re saying you’d like to be a subsistence farmer with a safety net

You put in the sweat equity and the group takes care of you

but unless your commune is a complete society the government has a monopoly on safety nets

and if it is a complete society you’re beholden to it

You don’t want a cult

It’s like wanting to be a writer

It’s so hard it’s almost impossible

We’re not going to have access to your vision (which is the vision of escaping the paradigm of capitalism) unless we deconstruct our current power structure

That cannot be done by voting or any traditional political methods
I was looking up stuff on the web and seeing society's that require buy ins of half a million dollars as if that was desirable for anyone who wasn't just a bored nouveau aristocrat.

And if I got no money, what, I got to have an education the same as if I want to join the Peace Corps?

So basically I gotta find a society with a charismatic leader who can attract the numbers necessary to build a self-sufficient society because for those numbers it's about advertising basically, which is a cult?

Basically I need to find five friends who want to start a farm in the woods where the government won't be able to find us or care to?

Bro, what do you know about crops? I got a mom with a green thumb. Maybe she's got hot tips.
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I laugh at the idea that you can implement your ideas politically, but I'd kill a million people in a heartbeat if I thought you actually could.
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I laugh at the idea that you can implement your ideas politically, but I'd kill a million people in a heartbeat if I thought you actually could.
I’d kill billions

That’s probably what it would take too
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I don't know if you mentioned this OH, but you can join the Amish, a commune, whatever, capitalism is still going to drive the planet into being inhospitable if nuclear war doesn't do it first
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Then what the **** are you up for?
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I constantly fantasize about starting my own lesbian spinster witch commune, or, alternately, just creating an isolated yurt village with no particular theme and just letting whoever live there. We would live in hobbit holes (but I'd live in a nearby lighthouse because that's just how it has to be) and have a little farm in the center, and at least 20 dogs and some chickens, and then it'll fall apart once I and probably several others realize that we do not actually know one single thing about farming or homesteading. (And then we die, which is fine) I've considered joining existing communes in the past but I can't bear a lot of new age hippie types (a specific type of new age hippie, I mean-- plenty of them can be fun though) so I'd be fairly hesitant. Unless they were strictly Forbidden from speaking to me and my several miniature donkeys. And this all seems rather nice in my head but not as nice as the idea of living in a cave behind a water fall where I'd make my own goat cheese and play the lyre badly.

I can't remember the name of the dude, but there was/is this one person-- I think he might have been the mayor of some tiny town prior to all this-- started a commune of sorts based around "radical truth" or something and everyone was obligated to get rid of any and all mental filters they had and blurt out whatever was passing through their mind at all times even if it was violent or vulgar or unwanted. Oh, and they were all nudists, too, I believe.
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I don't think we'd have to return to sandhuts, we just don't work to build mansions for the Nobles and Monarchs of our time
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I constantly fantasize about starting my own lesbian spinster witch commune, or, alternately, just creating an isolated yurt village with no particular theme and just letting whoever live there. We would live in hobbit holes (but I'd live in a nearby lighthouse because that's just how it has to be) and have a little farm in the center, and at least 20 dogs and some chickens, and then it'll fall apart once I and probably several others realize that we do not actually know one single thing about farming or homesteading. (And then we die, which is fine) I've considered joining existing communes in the past but I can't bear a lot of new age hippie types (a specific type of new age hippie, I mean-- plenty of them can be fun though) so I'd be fairly hesitant. Unless they were strictly Forbidden from speaking to me and my several miniature donkeys. And this all seems rather nice in my head but not as nice as the idea of living in a cave behind a water fall where I'd make my own goat cheese and play the lyre badly.

I can't remember the name of the dude, but there was/is this one person-- I think he might have been the mayor of some tiny town prior to all this-- started a commune of sorts based around "radical truth" or something and everyone was obligated to get rid of any and all mental filters they had and blurt out whatever was passing through their mind at all times even if it was violent or vulgar or unwanted. Oh, and they were all nudists, too, I believe.
One of the most depressing moments of my adult life was when I researched lighthouses and found that at least in America they're now all automated so if you want to be a lighthouse keeper then **** you you're screwed.
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