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Old 09-10-2019, 10:25 PM   #71 (permalink)
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reading it as gatekeeping is seeing it as if there's some interest in keeping lyrics from being poetry which makes me think you're still seeing it from the validity angle

as if lyrics are being devalued because they aren't poetry

that's not really the point
Separate is inherently unequal. Lyrics are poetry in the same way that ****ty limericks are. You are gatekeeping by trying to exclude lyrics from the conversation.
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I'm trying to prevent lyrics from being unfairly critiqued by being evaluated outside the context in which they're written for

PS: VU lyrics are GOLD
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I'm trying to prevent lyrics from being unfairly critiqued by being evaluated outside the context in which they're written for
Makes sense for VU, doesn't make sense for something like Billy Woods where the lyrics are the focal point of the music.

Try to moralize it all you want, but you're gatekeeping.
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the song also sucks
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the song also sucks
I always thought you were a big Sister Ray fan. So you just like the lyrics?
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Imagist poetry is to Romanticism what Punk is to Prog Rock if you will

it was a 20th century reactionary movement to Romanticism, the tenants being:

I. Direct treatment of the “thing," whether subjective or objective.
II. To use absolutely no word that does not contribute to the presentation.
III. As regarding rhythm: to compose in sequence of the musical phrase, not in sequence of the metronome.

https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-imagism

but if you can separate Art from its historical and contextual significance (not a given)

I like that the prose is eloquent but not excessive

the shortness of length is novel, but it's also instrumental in lending each word potency, similar to something like a Haiku

the goal here is not to offer a moral question, present an opinion, or make the reader solve some kind of puzzle to find a hidden meaning

it presents a stark image in bold language, and in doing so highlights the unfathomable significance of the mundane


-Erza Pound

I'm also just partial to free verse poetry
This is the sorta thing that I have to be explained to why it's good and I still don't quite get it. Reminds me of when I went to the art gallery with the ex. A lot of this **** is lost on me. The poem was describing a flower right?
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Isn't it a comparison of some special faces standing out among a crowd with petals?
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That could be. I also don't know what a bough is.
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This is the sorta thing that I have to be explained to why it's good and I still don't quite get it. Reminds me of when I went to the art gallery with the ex. A lot of this **** is lost on me. The poem was describing a flower right?
tbf

I didn't include the title

"In a Station of the Metro"

he is describing a crowd of people simply put
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