Comic Con 2013

LoathsomePete · 07-22-2013, 04:33 PM

I can't really say I'm that excited or optimistic either. With bringing on the same team as Man of Steel I can't help but think all the same problems with that movie are going to be present in the new one. I mean if you thought Superman was depressing in Man of Steel, it's going to be made all the worse when you bring in Captain Bring-Down (Batman). Not only that but with only three years after Christopher Nolan's trilogy fresh in everyone's minds, the new Batman is going to go up against constant scrutiny.

It really does feel like this Justice League movie is being made because Warner Bros. thinks it has to be made now after The Avengers happened, not because someone is desperate to tell a story about a group of superheroes.

Circe · 07-22-2013, 04:57 PM

Not to mention they still don't have a way of making it happen. DC have the problem of all but three or four of their heroes being largely forgotten in pop culture, and building a Justice League without those guys getting their own films is a guaranteed disaster. Man of Steel has not encouraged audiences to look forward to those films and it's mainly because studios just do not ****ing learn that we are all sick of origin stories for popular heroes by now. Nobody wants to sit around for half the film watching the story of where Superman came from for the fiftieth time, nor do they want to put up with yet another scene of Bruce Wayne's parents being shot and the boy's journey towards the mask. We enjoy variety and originality, even if research predicts that Superman will sell more tickets than Nightwing.

Wanna know why The Avengers did so well? Good but obscure heroes being brought into the public eye with a breath of new fresh air. Contrast that with Warner Bros making the billionth Superman film this decade and sticking yet another reboot of Batman in there for good measure. They don't even have the balls to take on a Wonder Woman film because their flowcharts project that a female superhero film is a slightly bigger risk. Not to mention that they're eventually going to have to try and salvage something out of the mess that was that Green Lantern film (which is possible - just look at the Hulk). I just wish they'd stop beating the dead horse of their two most iconic characters and get around to actually trying to fulfill the ambition.

In its current state this Justice League project has the very real potential to kill off the A list superhero trend for good, which is worrying. I'd really rather the trend burned out of its own accord after saying all it had to say, which is my way of saying I want a Deadpool film and another Daredevil that doesn't suck before we hopefully move on to something that isn't linked to Michael Bay at all.

LoathsomePete · 07-23-2013, 11:38 AM

Yeah the fact that they're doing a Flash movie before Wonder Woman kind of goes to show how little respect Warner Bros. seems to have for the source material. There are three components to the Justice League, Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Human Sonic the Hedgehog is an important character to the Justice League, but he doesn't need his own movie.

As to that movie being what could possibly kill off the superhero movie genre, I think it could definitely kill off Warner Bros. interest in making superhero movies that aren't Batman. I think it will be a mixture of oversaturation and something new coming along that will eventually do it, although if Marvel studios and Disney play their cards right I don't think that will happen before 2020.

It will be interesting how they incorporate some of the weirder superheroes like Ant-Man and Dr. Strange, and I would not be surprised if they test those characters in that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D TV series that starts up in the fall. I don't think it's impossible to get the more casual superhero fans into the stranger elements of comics, and from what I've heard the fan reaction to Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty positive and I have a feeling the movie will do alright next year.

What's sad is that if Warner Bros. got their sh*t together earlier, they could have done the exact same thing that Marvel did with Agent Coulson and S.H.I.E.L.D. in Iron Man. While she is a little obscure, Agent Cameron Chase of the Department of Extranormal Operations would have been a great character to help with world building in their three big movies of the last 6 years. I'm still hoping Warner Bros. can pull it together and do justice to to an expanded DC universe, but I'm not holding my breath.

The Batlord · 07-23-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bob.

from the previews it looks pretty good....the kid they got playing Ender in my opinion is pretty spot on....well looks wise

Spoiler for HUGE spoiler if you have not read the book.....like Darth Vader is Luke's dad type of spoiler:

there were rumors a while back that they would be combining Ender's Game with Ender's Shadow for the film.....personally i think that would loose some of the grip the story can have on the reader/audience...although i very much enjoyed reading Bean's story

I was just thinking the same thing earlier today/last night.

Spoiler for Spoiler:

djchameleon · 07-23-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

It will be interesting how they incorporate some of the weirder superheroes like Ant-Man and Dr. Strange, and I would not be surprised if they test those characters in that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D TV series that starts up in the fall. I don't think it's impossible to get the more casual superhero fans into the stranger elements of comics, and from what I've heard the fan reaction to Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty positive and I have a feeling the movie will do alright next year.

If the test footage for Ant-Man is any indication they are probably going to go a straight comedy route for him.

Astronomer · 07-24-2013, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Did you get their autographs?

I may to go the NY one in October but the San Diego one is the mecca.

Nope, but I got photos with them! I wasn't that excited though, TBH! I'm not going to post the photos because of a rather revealing cosplay outfit I was in at the time

Don't feel comfortable putting that shit on the net!

djchameleon · 07-24-2013, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Nope, but I got photos with them! I wasn't that excited though, TBH! I'm not going to post the photos because of a rather revealing cosplay outfit I was in at the time

Don't feel comfortable putting that shit on the net!

hmmmm how revealing? cleavage you mean? you can also just like edit it til you are comfortable enough to show it block out/cover up some areas with like black boxes or something along those lines

Astronomer · 07-24-2013, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

hmmmm how revealing? cleavage you mean? you can also just like edit it til you are comfortable enough to show it block out/cover up some areas with like black boxes or something along those lines

Not that revealing, but revealing enough to not want to post seeing as I work in a government job

djchameleon · 07-24-2013, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Not that revealing, but revealing enough to not want to post seeing as I work in a government job

hmm well I should be expecting a PM soon with the pic. Who were you even cosplaying as btw?

I'm having a hard time finding what Jessica Nigri wore this year. Hmmm

This will have to do in the mean time until I can find out what she wore at Comic Con

Circe · 07-24-2013, 02:38 PM

Probably the best cosplay in terms of quality I've seen so far:

07-22-2013, 04:33 PM	#21 (permalink)
LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	I can't really say I'm that excited or optimistic either. With bringing on the same team as Man of Steel I can't help but think all the same problems with that movie are going to be present in the new one. I mean if you thought Superman was depressing in Man of Steel, it's going to be made all the worse when you bring in Captain Bring-Down (Batman). Not only that but with only three years after Christopher Nolan's trilogy fresh in everyone's minds, the new Batman is going to go up against constant scrutiny. It really does feel like this Justice League movie is being made because Warner Bros. thinks it has to be made now after The Avengers happened, not because someone is desperate to tell a story about a group of superheroes. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

07-23-2013, 11:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	Yeah the fact that they're doing a Flash movie before Wonder Woman kind of goes to show how little respect Warner Bros. seems to have for the source material. There are three components to the Justice League, Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Human Sonic the Hedgehog is an important character to the Justice League, but he doesn't need his own movie. As to that movie being what could possibly kill off the superhero movie genre, I think it could definitely kill off Warner Bros. interest in making superhero movies that aren't Batman. I think it will be a mixture of oversaturation and something new coming along that will eventually do it, although if Marvel studios and Disney play their cards right I don't think that will happen before 2020. It will be interesting how they incorporate some of the weirder superheroes like Ant-Man and Dr. Strange, and I would not be surprised if they test those characters in that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D TV series that starts up in the fall. I don't think it's impossible to get the more casual superhero fans into the stranger elements of comics, and from what I've heard the fan reaction to Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty positive and I have a feeling the movie will do alright next year. What's sad is that if Warner Bros. got their sht together earlier, they could have done the exact same thing that Marvel did with Agent Coulson and S.H.I.E.L.D. in Iron Man*. While she is a little obscure, Agent Cameron Chase of the Department of Extranormal Operations would have been a great character to help with world building in their three big movies of the last 6 years. I'm still hoping Warner Bros. can pull it together and do justice to to an expanded DC universe, but I'm not holding my breath. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

07-22-2013, 04:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
Circe Blunt After Blunt After Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a French-ass restaurant Posts: 337	Not to mention they still don't have a way of making it happen. DC have the problem of all but three or four of their heroes being largely forgotten in pop culture, and building a Justice League without those guys getting their own films is a guaranteed disaster. Man of Steel has not encouraged audiences to look forward to those films and it's mainly because studios just do not ****ing learn that we are all sick of origin stories for popular heroes by now. Nobody wants to sit around for half the film watching the story of where Superman came from for the fiftieth time, nor do they want to put up with yet another scene of Bruce Wayne's parents being shot and the boy's journey towards the mask. We enjoy variety and originality, even if research predicts that Superman will sell more tickets than Nightwing. Wanna know why The Avengers did so well? Good but obscure heroes being brought into the public eye with a breath of new fresh air. Contrast that with Warner Bros making the billionth Superman film this decade and sticking yet another reboot of Batman in there for good measure. They don't even have the balls to take on a Wonder Woman film because their flowcharts project that a female superhero film is a slightly bigger risk. Not to mention that they're eventually going to have to try and salvage something out of the mess that was that Green Lantern film (which is possible - just look at the Hulk). I just wish they'd stop beating the dead horse of their two most iconic characters and get around to actually trying to fulfill the ambition. In its current state this Justice League project has the very real potential to kill off the A list superhero trend for good, which is worrying. I'd really rather the trend burned out of its own accord after saying all it had to say, which is my way of saying I want a Deadpool film and another Daredevil that doesn't suck before we hopefully move on to something that isn't linked to Michael Bay at all.

07-24-2013, 02:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
Circe Blunt After Blunt After Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a French-ass restaurant Posts: 337	Probably the best cosplay in terms of quality I've seen so far: