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Old 06-28-2013, 12:17 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Yup. The medium itself, not specific examples of bad auto-tune.
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I guess there isn't anything wrong with the medium itself, I just haven't heard it used in a way that I enjoy or noticed that it was auto-tune when I did enjoy it. It's kind of hard to miss, though.

I like the album for the most part. The production is quality and what earns the album a place in my listening schedule. I gave the album a three because I'm not a huge fan of Kanye's emceeing, but that could possibly end up growing on me.
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:03 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Yup. The medium itself, not specific examples of bad auto-tune.
If I can't tell it's used, it doesn't bother me. It's when people use it for that stereotypical autotune sound (like a vocoder) that I can't stand it. I honestly have a hard time believing that people find that cool enough to still use today.
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #134 (permalink)
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I only care what the music sounds like in my ears, whatever means has been used to create it is of no concern of mine.

Obviously I also hate shitty auto-tune, just like I hate listening to other shit attempts at making music.
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I'm sorry that's really not what I meant at all. I didn't mean to say anything offensive about black people. The point I was trying to get across was that on this album, and to some extent most of the music he's made in the last five years, West has been using his lyrics to show that the stereotypical black man from chicago can and has become very rich and famous. He's trying to say that you don't have to conform to be successful, and I think that's the opposite of racist to be honest.
Okay i guess I get that you didn't mean it but I have to agree with Jans here.
Before, what you said, and correct me if you worded this wrong too but you kind of repeated it here, was that he showed he's a stereotypical black by being ignorant as he is. And that it's too bad that he's not conforming to the stereotypes you have of NONE black people being successful and influential.

That's what it sounds like to me, reading it aloud.
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Okay i guess I get that you didn't mean it but I have to agree with Jans here.
Before, what you said, and correct me if you worded this wrong too but you kind of repeated it here, was that he showed he's a stereotypical black by being ignorant as he is. And that it's too bad that he's not conforming to the stereotypes you have of NONE black people being successful and influential.

That's what it sounds like to me, reading it aloud.
That sounds accurate to the gist of what he's saying.

Care to explain further FaSho?
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I think this album feels a little rushed, personally.
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I think this album feels a little rushed, personally.
Maybe that's why it has so much more energy and life to it than his other releases.
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Well there is definitely a lack of energy/life in the lyrical department, beats aside.
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Well I don't think he's conforming to that stereotype, I think that's just the way he is, and its an angle that has been working for him. If what you're saying is accurate then that just goes to show what a mad genius the man is.
I've never listened to much Kanye just because I'm lazy about listening to hip hop, but I've been hearing this album in my friend's car recently and I think it's more that he's self-consciously projecting the ultimate egomaniacal rapper persona. Obviously there are enough of people who try to do this than you can shake a stick at, but they're not doing it to make the same satirical artistic statement as Kanye. At least that's how I see it.
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