Eminem - Revival

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Maajo

Eh, lots of people who aren't casual fans listen to Michael Jackson and The Beatles. They make good music.

Popularity means appealing to a lot of people and the majority of people are unfortunately casual music fans. Are great artists occasionally popular? Yes. Are great artists occasionally obscure? Yes. Are garbage artists popular? Too often. Are garbage artists occasionally obscure? Not often enough. Popularity is not consistent enough to act a cut and dry way to show that something has high artistic value. If you think an artist has something to offer, tell us what that is. It's a much more logical way to establish quality. Popularity is only valuable as trivia and good news for artists that you support.

[Maajo]

Frank Zappa was a big fan of The Beach Boys, The Monkees, The Beatles and other bubblegum pop that lots of people don't like fellas. I'm pretty sure he knows what good music sounds like, I think I know what good music sounds like, I'm sure you guys know what good music sounds like too. If you think you're gonna change my mind yous bes mistakin, because I'm pretty damn stubborn.

Either way, once again I don't think this discussion has a lot of hope of progressing into anything beyond where it is now, so I'm gonna go ahead and check out of it. I'll check back in tommorrow after I've listened to it in full.

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by Frownland

If you think an artist has something to offer, tell us what that is.

I don't know about you, but I usually like the same things about a lot of artists. Do they have charisma? Are their songs interesting? Do they write lyrics that have some sort of value? That's basically it dude. It doesn't need to be much more complicated than that.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Maajo

Frank Zappa was a big fan of The Beach Boys, The Monkees, The Beatles and other bubblegum pop that lots of people don't like fellas. I'm pretty sure he knows what good music sounds like, I think I know what good music sounds like, I'm sure you guys know what good music sounds like too. If you think you're gonna change my mind yous bes mistakin, because I'm pretty damn stubborn.

He liked them because he enjoyed their music, not because they were popular.

Have you heard his thoughts on multi-platinum artist Jethro Tull?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Maajo

I don't know about you, but I usually like the same things about a lot of artists. Do they have charisma? Are their songs interesting? Do they write lyrics that have some sort of value? That's basically it dude. It doesn't need to be much more complicated than that.

Then say "but they have so much charisma and have fascinating songs" instead of "but they're popular".

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Have you heard his thoughts on multi-platinum artist Jethro Tull?

Nope, what'd he think?

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Then say "but they have so much charisma and have fascinating songs" instead of "but they're popular".

Haha, naaaaah, I think I'll say it however it feels right at the time brotha.

Have a nice one.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Maajo

Nope, what'd he think?

He thought that they were vapid and bad.

Originally Posted by Maajo

Haha, naaaaah, I think I'll say it however it feels right at the time brotha.

Have a nice one.

That's fine I guess, but hopefully you can see why we're laughing at you for treating popularity as a barometer for quality if it happens again.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

i'm a person who thinks eminem is probably the most overrated hip hop artist of all time

i like some of his stuff, but calling him anything other than "pretty good" is hilarious

Jay-Z.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Jay-Z.

He's a little better than Tupac and generally rated lower.