Eminem - Revival

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Point out the fallacy. Can you? Or are you just going to say it exists.

Lol seriously? Bandwagon fallacy.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I've met a lot of basic mother****ers that like Nickelback. There's a reason I look down on people.

Compared to the number of people who hate them, which number is bigger?

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Lol seriously? Bandwagon fallacy.

I never said that you have to believe music is good because the masses do.

I just said that if you want to talk objectively about music, like you tried, then the opinions of the masses matter much more than you want to credit them for because it contradicts your own views.

How many times do I have to say that before it hits you? Or are you going to continue to reach?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Compared to the number of people who hate them, which number is bigger?

Objection. An artist can be incredibly popular while still being incredibly hated.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by elphenor

this is how you structure an objective argument hm

You think the general population likes Nickelback? Honestly?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I never said that you have to believe music is good because the masses do.

I just said that if you want to talk objectively about music, like you tried, then the opinions of the masses matter much more than you want to credit them for because it contradicts your own views.

How many times do I have to say that before it hits you? Or are you going to continue to reach?

If the masses don't judge music on the same basis, then their support of an artist (how I define popularity) is not an objective point of view.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Objection. An artist can be incredibly popular while still being incredibly hated.

Okay, give me an example and I'll shut up and concede and you're right and I'm being a dumb ass wasting everybody's time.

I don't count Nickelback, consensus is that they suck, people hate them in numbers that far out number the people that like them.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Okay, give me an example and I'll shut up and concede and you're right and I'm being a dumb ass wasting everybody's time.

U2
Muse
Mumford & Sons
Kanye West

Lots of bands that are loved on a wide scale that a lot of music fans (but not all) mock on a wide scale.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

U2
Muse
Mumford & Sons

Lots of bands that are loved on a wide scale that a lot of music fans (but not all) mock on a wide scale.

But are they generally hated? Is there a general consensus that they suck or is there just a split view on them?

Edit: No, general consensus is that Kanye is very talented and good. He's mocked for his ego.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

But are they generally hated?

I said widely, but I guess you could say yes depending on the community that you're surveying.

just a split view on them?

Pretty much, with basic hos being the most enthusiastic supporters whose opinions I dismiss even in an objective argument because they're dumb and I'm just better at understanding music than them.