Eminem - Revival

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I said widely, but I guess you could say yes depending on the community that you're surveying.



Pretty much, with basic hos being the most enthusiastic supporters whose opinions I dismiss even in an objective argument because they're dumb and I'm just better at understanding music than them.

So people that don't agree with you are objectively wrong, you claim?

And that's exactly what I said, you are objectively dismissing a group of people because they contradict your taste. Which is wrong. I can agree you're smarter than most people and that people can be basic as ****, but not that they are objectively less valid than you. Can we end this now?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Edit: No, general consensus is that Kanye is very talented and good. He's mocked for his ego.

Looks like you haven't been around. People are very split on him. Actually that's a good example of what I'm trying to drive at here. Most of the people who hate him just do it in a knee jerk rap=crap way. How much swing do they have in the general opinion of Kanye West? What if they made up 95% of music listeners? On the flipside, what if they only made up 1% of music listeners and everyone had equally dismissive opinions of The Beatles? If the masses approached music consistently, popularity would make sense as a determination of quality like you would for a food or some ****, but people get a lot of different things from music and are also idiots. I'd rather talk about the music than what they think.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

So people that don't agree with you are objectively wrong, you claim?

No, because music is subjective and I don't approach it as if it was objective.

And that's exactly what I said, you are objectively dismissing a group of people because they contradict your taste. Which is wrong. I can agree you're smarter than most people and that people can be basic as ****, but not that they are objectively less valid than you. Can we end this now?

I'm dismissing "them" as an abstract concept. I'll gladly have a conversation with them, but "them" isn't enough for man.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Looks like you haven't been around. People are very split on him. Actually that's a good example of what I'm trying to drive at here. Most of the people who hate him just do it in a knee jerk rap=crap way. How much swing do they have in the general opinion of Kanye West? What if they made up 95% of music listeners? On the flipside, what if they only made up 1% of music listeners and everyone had equally dismissive opinions of The Beatles? If the masses approached music consistently, popularity would make sense as a determination of quality like you would for a food or some ****, but people get a lot of different things from music and are also idiots. I'd rather talk about the music than what they think.

No. Because Kanye is still extremely popular despite all of that. Common consensus is that he's dope, he's talented but he's not as good as he was. But what ever, I agree that speaking on music objectively like that is stupid and it's stupid of me to waste everybody's time with a point they don't want to get that really doesn't even matter.

Edit: And I think I had a good point that you couldn't dull it's just a pointless point to make.

[[MERIT]]

Imagine if you two put this much effort into something PRODUCTIVE

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Imagine if you two put this much effort into something PRODUCTIVE

https://jesusthecarpenter.bandcamp.com/

[Lucem Ferre]

I wanted to play video games and I spent my whole afternoon arguing this, I'm disappointed with myself.

Edit: Still more entertaining than that good damn Eminem album.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Frownland

https://jesusthecarpenter.bandcamp.com/

That is literally the worst thing that I have ever heard in my entire life. I feel dumber for having listened to it. Where did you dig up that link from? LOL

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

That is literally the worst thing that I have ever heard in my entire life. I feel dumber for having listened to it. Where did you dig up that link from? LOL

https://jesusthecarpenter.bandcamp.com/

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Frownland

https://jesusthecarpenter.bandcamp.com/

You got me lol.