Pop, is it corporate garbage or does it have it's merits? (electronic, house)

tkpb938 · 05-20-2008, 04:43 PM

Yaayyy!!!

jackhammer · 05-20-2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oomph!

You know what, don't worry about it. You pathetic losers can spend all day and night on a shitty music forum, and lol about grammatical errors or whatever it is you do here. I've already invested too much of my time on this cesspool of brainless, psudo-clever retorts and condescending trolls who sit on their fat-asses, mindlessly repeating the same garbage to the same people day in and day out on the same little pointless forum. God, grow the fuck up, get a job or a girlfriend or something. You're probably a bunch friendless losers in real life anyway, so to compensate for your social short-comings you group together on the internet, where you can take advantage of anonymity and live out your fantasy of being cool and likeable by circle-jerking each other with glib, meaningless posts.

You guys aren't interested in objective debate or anything remotely related, your interested in ego-stroking nonsense.

Fuck you, fuck this site, you can waste your time banning me or actually responding but I'm not coming back (although I don't think you internet nerds have 'time' to waste). Keep your lame, faggy music, it perfectly reflects your personality anyway. And since this is my last post here, I spellchecked and proof-read it just for you!

How dare you say that my bum looks big in this....

BTW. Fuck off moron and learn to accept criticism and reply coherently to counter arguments. I will know assign my Godsmack albums to the great electronic bin in cyberspace. Oh yeah-yes you are banned too!

Commodore · 05-20-2008, 05:52 PM

Hm. Anyway, my 2 cents.

Pop is not all bad. There are some amazing artists that are in the genre, one that sticks out to me is Amy Winehouse. Hate her or love her, girl can sing. Anyway, I think that there are a lot of artists who are pop who have talent, but labels stifle creative expansion in exchange for money. Not calling them a bad guy for that, they run a business, and if a business works, don't change it. When someone finds something that works, it's imitated by other artists hoping to cash in on the sound, and often times, to me, it's the "posers" that suck. It's frustrating, because if some of these bands were given more of a chance to expand and come up with more of their own material, many have huge potential.

And then you have the artists that have no talent and no potential, but are marketed because the only ones that are buying new albums in large quantities are suburban tweens.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-20-2008, 06:15 PM

pseudo-clever retorts?

Mine were the genuine real thing

djkikis · 05-20-2008, 08:23 PM

usually pop tends to be music that is solely meant to be sold by the millions. but if you think about it.. there must be a reason that it sells by the millions, and its because most of it sounds good and catchy!

i have to admit some of it is just like wtf. ie Souljah Boy superman dat hoe (?!??!) but some of it is actually very very catchy and hard to write music. i've always loved pop!

Commodore · 05-20-2008, 08:29 PM

The reason it sells by the millions says something about society. Some of the stuff you can't understand how anyone would enjoy, and yet it sells more copies in it's first week than albums with heart and soul behind them. Of course, you give anything a promotional budget bigger than the GDP of Lithuania, and I'm sure that it would sell. Some people are limited in their scope of music to what's easiest to find. Hence, Pop music.

Strummer521 · 05-20-2008, 08:43 PM

We need pop in order to keep the industry afloat. It's the only thing that sells.

adidasss · 05-21-2008, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oomph!

You know what, don't worry about it. You pathetic losers can spend all day and night on a shitty music forum, and lol about grammatical errors or whatever it is you do here. I've already invested too much of my time on this cesspool of brainless, psudo-clever retorts and condescending trolls who sit on their fat-asses, mindlessly repeating the same garbage to the same people day in and day out on the same little pointless forum. God, grow the fuck up, get a job or a girlfriend or something. You're probably a bunch friendless losers in real life anyway, so to compensate for your social short-comings you group together on the internet, where you can take advantage of anonymity and live out your fantasy of being cool and likeable by circle-jerking each other with glib, meaningless posts.

You guys aren't interested in objective debate or anything remotely related, your interested in ego-stroking nonsense.

Fuck you, fuck this site, you can waste your time banning me or actually responding but I'm not coming back (although I don't think you internet nerds have 'time' to waste). Keep your lame, faggy music, it perfectly reflects your personality anyway. And since this is my last post here, I spellchecked and proof-read it just for you!

The classic "you're all fat losers" argument.

Rainard Jalen · 05-23-2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strummer521

We need pop in order to keep the industry afloat. It's the only thing that sells.

What do you mean? That there'd be no music "industry" worth mentioning if there was no commercially oriented music? That's just stating the obvious. What's the point of the comment?

On a side note, I reckon that one of the weakest mainstream pop artists of the current day is Jay-Z, and that American Gangster was a ridiculously poor album.

Kira82 · 06-27-2008, 09:14 AM

I love pop music. Not all of it, but a lot. And I do think pop music can have deep meaning, too. It's not ALL about "ooh i'm so hott look at me!!" - many artists and songs have merit.

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Commodore Groupie Join Date: May 2008 Location: All over the US Posts: 11	Hm. Anyway, my 2 cents. Pop is not all bad. There are some amazing artists that are in the genre, one that sticks out to me is Amy Winehouse. Hate her or love her, girl can sing. Anyway, I think that there are a lot of artists who are pop who have talent, but labels stifle creative expansion in exchange for money. Not calling them a bad guy for that, they run a business, and if a business works, don't change it. When someone finds something that works, it's imitated by other artists hoping to cash in on the sound, and often times, to me, it's the "posers" that suck. It's frustrating, because if some of these bands were given more of a chance to expand and come up with more of their own material, many have huge potential. And then you have the artists that have no talent and no potential, but are marketed because the only ones that are buying new albums in large quantities are suburban tweens.

05-20-2008, 08:23 PM	#295 (permalink)
djkikis Groupie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 27	usually pop tends to be music that is solely meant to be sold by the millions. but if you think about it.. there must be a reason that it sells by the millions, and its because most of it sounds good and catchy! i have to admit some of it is just like wtf. ie Souljah Boy superman dat hoe (?!??!) but some of it is actually very very catchy and hard to write music. i've always loved pop!

05-20-2008, 08:29 PM	#296 (permalink)
Commodore Groupie Join Date: May 2008 Location: All over the US Posts: 11	The reason it sells by the millions says something about society. Some of the stuff you can't understand how anyone would enjoy, and yet it sells more copies in it's first week than albums with heart and soul behind them. Of course, you give anything a promotional budget bigger than the GDP of Lithuania, and I'm sure that it would sell. Some people are limited in their scope of music to what's easiest to find. Hence, Pop music.

06-27-2008, 09:14 AM	#300 (permalink)
Kira82 Groupie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4	I love pop music. Not all of it, but a lot. And I do think pop music can have deep meaning, too. It's not ALL about "ooh i'm so hott look at me!!" - many artists and songs have merit.