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Old 05-12-2011, 09:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Macca's singles are consistent

and his recent work is commendable

and Lemme Roll It to You is probably the best pop-rock song ever

heck, I even adore Pipes of Peace (the album)
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Better sure, but I'd say they were both pretty terrible. Lennon consistently hits me as a guy I'm supposed to like because of precedent.

"Aw man, how can you not like Lennon"

"I don't ****ing know, because it all sounds the god damned same and his lyrics aren't nearly as engaging as everyone pretends they are...thats how?"
Honestly, though, I feel solo-work wise the best was Harrison, but it's difficult to call him king from a Beatles perspective because he's written so few songs.

Then again, my favorite pop song writer is Brian Eno, and I don't even know if he could be considered 'pop'
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:23 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Honestly, though, I feel solo-work wise the best was Harrison, but it's difficult to call him king from a Beatles perspective because he's written so few songs.

Then again, my favorite pop song writer is Brian Eno, and I don't even know if he could be considered 'pop'
Yeah his solo work wouldn't be, but you're right, he was a songwriting monster. The Concert for George blew me out of the water...and I was in a La-Z-Boy!!!
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:39 PM   #34 (permalink)
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No... Just NO... Beatles as well as Lennon was way better than Paul..also he is NO Michael Jackson
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Top three best living pop writers - Paul McCartney, The Bee Gees, and Burt Bacharach.
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Top three best living pop writers - Paul McCartney, The Bee Gees, and Burt Bacharach.
one of the Bee Gees have already moved on
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:39 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I'd put Brian Wilson, Paul Simon and Ray Davies above The Bee Gees.

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I'm saying pop songs will inherently sound dated as technology advances. Not to mention these songs are made to fit the times.

Pop rarely has a classic save for a handful of songs.
Hard for me to agree with that. Most of the famous melodies of the past are pop songs of one kind or another, surely many more than a handful. I think you might be just favouring more modern music as that is your preference? Of course more modern stuff has an advantage in that it can build on what went before, but that doesn't invalidate earlier stuff. Older classics still live on for those open to them. And rather than styles just becoming outdated as you say I would say they are simply added to. You get retro pop for example in all kinds of different styles through the decades. In the 70s and 80s there could be retro 60s pop for instance. Over the last few years there has been plenty of retro 80s stuff. All kinds of styles are possible in pop, not just those there are the most hip in a given moment. As for bands changing up their style of song just look at The Beatles they did all kinds of different songs, and that was back in the 60s.
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Most of the famous melodies of the past are pop songs of one kind or another, surely many more than a handful.

Older classics still live on for those open to them. You get retro pop for example in all kinds of different styles through the decades. In the 70s and 80s there could be retro 60s pop for instance. Over the last few years there has been plenty of retro 80s stuff. All kinds of styles are possible in pop, not just those there are the most hip in a given moment. As for bands changing up their style of song just look at The Beatles they did all kinds of different songs, and that was back in the 60s.
i don't think 60s, 70s or 80s pop sound "dated", they might only in terms of production values, not the construction of the melodies and the structure in general

and you have to understand that those tunes were made in the zeitgeist of those times
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i don't think 60s, 70s or 80s pop sound "dated", they might only in terms of production values, not the construction of the melodies and the structure in general

and you have to understand that those tunes were made in the zeitgeist of those times
Absolutely. It's about songcraft, not just the production the music is clothed in. That's why classic songwriters from the 30s like Rodgers and Hart can still have their work listened to as well. And songs of course do get covered in different eras as well, more evidence that they do not die out as they are even re-interpreted by people.
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What did you guys think of his album "Memory Almost Full"?
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