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Old 04-01-2008, 02:51 PM   #61 (permalink)
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See you really haven't been listening. If you have you had you'd know the first punk bands were very much "pop-punk", The Buzzcocks, The Ramones, The Damned etc all used pop structures in their music. Nice try though.
In which instance did I say something that contradicted this?

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Old 04-01-2008, 03:04 PM   #62 (permalink)
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In which instance did I say something that contradicted this?
Well everyone I know defines crossover genre as two genres that have crossed over. For instance rap metal is a crossover genre because its rap + metal however metal isn't really a crossover genre since its own thing. I wouldn't call the beginning of punk a crossover genre either. Unless of course you consider it a combination of garage rock and pop in which case we can get very anal and just about everything is a crossover genre.
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:32 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Well everyone I know defines crossover genre as two genres that have crossed over. For instance rap metal is a crossover genre because its rap + metal however metal isn't really a crossover genre since its own thing. I wouldn't call the beginning of punk a crossover genre either. Unless of course you consider it a combination of garage rock and pop in which case we can get very anal and just about everything is a crossover genre.
I was reffering to 'pop-punk' as the crossover genre. You said that I didn't even know what

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Way to totally acknowledge and reply to my post. How is punk a crossover genre?
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Way to totally acknowledge and reply to my post. How is punk a crossover genre?
I didn't say punk was a crossover genre, I said pop-punk is.
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Punk started out pop-punk. I thought you said you listened?
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Punk started out pop-punk. I thought you said you listened?
Punk started out as Punk. If it started out as 'pop-punk' the word 'pop-punk' would not exist, only the work 'punk' by it's self would ever be used.

Are you basically trying to tell me 'pop-punk' is the exact same thing as 'punk' just because a couple of bands that started punk had pop elements?

The Ramones, they had some pop elements undoubtedy. The Clash, the Sex Pistols, they did not, they were punk. Just because all pure-punk may have some similarities with pop in general doesn't mean the two genres are indistinquishable.
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The Ramones, they had some pop elements undoubtedy. The Clash, the Sex Pistols, they did not, they were punk. Just because all pure-punk may have some similarities with pop in general doesn't mean the two genres are indistinquishable.

Um but the Ramones became before the Sex Pistols or the Clash and punk has roots in pop and the Sex Pistols still used pop elements/structures, as did other first punk bands like The Buzzcocks, The Damned. The Clash were nowhere near the first punk band, you're just showing your ignorance by naming them. What bands are pop-punk according to you?
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Yes, to name a few off the top of my head (And I ****ing hate the genre)

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Um but the Ramones became before the Sex Pistols or the Clash and punk has roots in pop and the Sex Pistols still used pop elements/structures, as did other first punk bands like The Buzzcocks, The Damned. The Clash were nowhere near the first punk band, you're just showing your ignorance by naming them. What bands are pop-punk according to you?
Is pop-punk the same thing as punk?
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