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Old 11-02-2015, 12:46 AM   #81 (permalink)
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... after the Ramones toured the UK.
So far as I know the English scene was already in full swing before then.

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Joey Ramones disliked the Ramones being called "Punk." Malcolm McLaren really wanted the Sex Pistols to be known as "New Wave." Richard Lloyd said that Television wasn't "proto Punk," that that word didn't even exist back then (in the 70s). I just see it as music evolving over time and then someone in the industry wants to slap a label on it. It's almost as if they had a new genre and needed bands for it. And the Sex Pistols was a prefab band made to order to fit the bill. I am not disputing their place in music history but I don't see them starting something that was already in the process.

The Dictators was that band that had that sound that was very close to sounding Punk before Punk exploded in '77 to a very small fraction of the population cause most people were into cheesy Pop, and Disco. The Dictators were influential to many bands in the Punk scene. Even Steve Jones was a fan of them.
Except it was the British scene that brought punk to the world (yes, even the clothing style they took from Television). If it wasn't for the Sex Pistols and the Clash becoming as popular as they did, then "punk" would just have been a bunch of disparate art rock scenes with a fraction of the influence of punk.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 11-02-2015, 08:45 AM   #82 (permalink)
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i was passing out while you were passing out your rules

1 2 3 4 who's punk whats the score?
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:12 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Yeah I thought of this too.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:12 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Lmao jackass before the Ramones and NYD released albums the band's we think of as punk today we're all trying to be Bowie, **** outta here
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@ Apollonia post a top 10 or gtfo
@ The Batlord as far as who started Punk "I Don't Wanna Hear It..."
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Old 11-02-2015, 08:36 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Lmao jackass before the Ramones and NYD released albums the band's we think of as punk today we're all trying to be Bowie, **** outta here
What is this random statement and who does it apply to? And considering the New York Dolls (I'm assuming that's who NYD are) released their first album in 1973, and the Ramones didn't until 1976, then why didn't you just say the New York Dolls and leave the Ramones out of it?

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@ Apollonia and The Batlord post a top 10 or gtfo trolls
I already did, numb nuts.

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****, I guess I should come up with my own list. I love me some punk, but I'm much more of a metal guy, so a lot of my favs would be on the metal side of punk. If nobody gives Marquee Moon a second thought, then I think old school metalcore should be up for grabs.

1. Arkangel - Dead Man Walking
2. Converge - Jane Doe
3. Magrudergrind - Magrudergrind
3. Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here Are the Sex Pistols
4. Unbroken - Life.Love.Regret.
5. Dead Kennedys - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death
6. Madball - Set It Off
7. Sick of It All - Death to Tyrants
8. Black Flag - Damaged
9. X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents
10. Ramones - Ramones

Honorable Mention: Charles Bronson - Youth Attack
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:48 AM   #89 (permalink)
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What is this random statement and who does it apply to? And considering the New York Dolls (I'm assuming that's who NYD are) released their first album in 1973, and the Ramones didn't until 1976, then why didn't you just say the New York Dolls and leave the Ramones out of it?



I already did, numb nuts.
Well it looks like your friend with the random statement found himself banned. Tbh I looked for your list but didn't see it. Looking back now I asked myself 'Why didn't I just say Apollonia and leave The Batlord out of it?'

I admire your self control of not adding Key$h and Manowar to your list. And I'm surprised you didn't mention Metallica's debut album. It's not a really a top 10 anyways, you have 12 entries in fact, two @ #3 and an honorary mention. So who's the numb nuts now?
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Ramones didn't sound punk? They did influence a large amount of the genre. That's part of why the critics love it.
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