Best 3 Rappers of all time

Kirby · 08-16-2009, 09:19 PM

I get tired of people hyping up Biggie and Tupac. They're both more overrated than Big L is.

In my opinion, Big L's first album was classic, and his work with D.I.T.C. was too, and if not, it was damn near it. I can listen to "Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous" front to back, and have never really felt compelled to do so with a Tupac or Biggie album.

The reason his second album was probably not up to par, was because it was mostly accapellas when he got killed, meaning he had no input on the instrumentals used, or the guests picked (which, a lot of them may have been picked to fill up the songs).

Jester · 08-17-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

Potentially the dumbest thing I've ever read. I might give you 'Pac in that argument but even then that's debatable. Ready to Die is easily a top 5-10 album of all time...and Life After Death is potentially better than that if you combine the best songs into just one CD instead of it being a double.

Big L is massively overhyped. His first album isn't even that good, his second is straight up terrible. He was weird in that he was almost always completely on point with his verses but he was incapable of making full albums because he got really old really fast...in his defense for being in ditch he didn't get the best beats either.

His music is perfect if you take his best songs and throw them in the middle of your own mix cd's...when that **** comes on its crazy good but throw one of his albums on and you wanna take a nap.

I like Lifestyles Ov Da Poor & Dangerous, but not enough to go around defending Big L.

Ready to Die and Life After Death, however... **** those albums. Absolute rip-offs of Scarface's Mr. Scarface is Back. But Scarface's was better, and it came first.

Biggie totally bites Scarface. Or, did.

IamAlejo · 08-17-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

I get tired of people hyping up Biggie and Tupac. They're both more overrated than Big L is.

In my opinion, Big L's first album was classic, and his work with D.I.T.C. was too, and if not, it was damn near it. I can listen to "Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous" front to back, and have never really felt compelled to do so with a Tupac or Biggie album.

The reason his second album was probably not up to par, was because it was mostly accapellas when he got killed, meaning he had no input on the instrumentals used, or the guests picked (which, a lot of them may have been picked to fill up the songs).

You'll never hear me hype up 'pac, I'm not a fan at all and believe he's been hyped up after death the same way Big L was. But Biggie hyped up? He had classic after classic. If you're really saying you'd go for Lifestylez over Ready to Die, you're just trying to hard at this whole hip-hop thing.

Big L has Street Struck, and that's about it. He got hyped over some freestyles that weren't even freestyles and some ridiculously clever punchlines. But he wasn't consistent and couldn't really switch up his delivery to keep people interested. Big daddy kane pretty much ate him up Platinum Plus. So much of his stuff just sounds exactly the same.

And I love Scarface but don't get your comparison to the ripping off. Face was way more grimey and one of the best story tellers in rap that there's been. The Diary is phenomenal.

Jester · 08-17-2009, 12:09 PM

If you don't see the comparison - and I'm not trying to be irrelevant here - I seriously think that you're being dodgy. Listen to Mr. Scarface is Back. Ready to Die becomes laughable.

Biggie tries telling stories in gangster rap, so does Scarface. There's different ways to go about with gangster rap, but Biggie just stole Scarface's persona.

John Schiffner · 08-20-2009, 06:28 PM

2 Pac
Jay Z
Biggie

Kirby · 08-20-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

You'll never hear me hype up 'pac, I'm not a fan at all and believe he's been hyped up after death the same way Big L was. But Biggie hyped up? He had classic after classic. If you're really saying you'd go for Lifestylez over Ready to Die, you're just trying to hard at this whole hip-hop thing.

Big L has Street Struck, and that's about it. He got hyped over some freestyles that weren't even freestyles and some ridiculously clever punchlines. But he wasn't consistent and couldn't really switch up his delivery to keep people interested. Big daddy kane pretty much ate him up Platinum Plus. So much of his stuff just sounds exactly the same.

And I love Scarface but don't get your comparison to the ripping off. Face was way more grimey and one of the best story tellers in rap that there's been. The Diary is phenomenal.

I don't see how it means that I'm trying too hard if I disagree.
Biggie is majorly overhyped. Just like Pac.

Hell, the only person at my school that I know of that even knew who Big L is was my Criminal Justice teacher, and he was surprised I knew him.

I will gladly say, anyday, that I would take Lifestylez over Biggie's album (if not his entire catalog)

Foxie · 08-21-2009, 11:45 AM

As far as lyrical composition

1. Big L
2. Eminem
3. Atmosphere as a group

Honorable mentions: Biggie, Eazy e, and thats about it :]

shexxdreamsinred · 08-21-2009, 12:18 PM

My top 3 with out a doubt is:
3- common
2- method man
1. Notorious BIG

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-21-2009, 03:26 PM

I cant come up with three but Nas is definitly up there.

Biggie and Tupac are good but highly overrated and Jay Z is to never got what the big deal was about him and FAR from being the best rapper alive.

Svengali · 08-21-2009, 04:38 PM

Lyricists:

Big L
Em
Immortal Technique

08-16-2009, 09:19 PM	#141 (permalink)
Kirby Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Forest Park, GA Posts: 1,637	I get tired of people hyping up Biggie and Tupac. They're both more overrated than Big L is. In my opinion, Big L's first album was classic, and his work with D.I.T.C. was too, and if not, it was damn near it. I can listen to "Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous" front to back, and have never really felt compelled to do so with a Tupac or Biggie album. The reason his second album was probably not up to par, was because it was mostly accapellas when he got killed, meaning he had no input on the instrumentals used, or the guests picked (which, a lot of them may have been picked to fill up the songs). __________________ ::KirbyISAlmighty::

08-17-2009, 12:09 PM	#144 (permalink)
Jester Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 752	If you don't see the comparison - and I'm not trying to be irrelevant here - I seriously think that you're being dodgy. Listen to Mr. Scarface is Back. Ready to Die becomes laughable. Biggie tries telling stories in gangster rap, so does Scarface. There's different ways to go about with gangster rap, but Biggie just stole Scarface's persona.

08-20-2009, 06:28 PM	#145 (permalink)
John Schiffner Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 8	2 Pac Jay Z Biggie

08-21-2009, 11:45 AM	#147 (permalink)
Foxie Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6	As far as lyrical composition 1. Big L 2. Eminem 3. Atmosphere as a group Honorable mentions: Biggie, Eazy e, and thats about it :]

08-21-2009, 12:18 PM	#148 (permalink)
shexxdreamsinred Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 3	My top 3 with out a doubt is: 3- common 2- method man 1. Notorious BIG

08-21-2009, 03:26 PM	#149 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	I cant come up with three but Nas is definitly up there. Biggie and Tupac are good but highly overrated and Jay Z is to never got what the big deal was about him and FAR from being the best rapper alive.

08-21-2009, 04:38 PM	#150 (permalink)
Svengali Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 19	Lyricists: Big L Em Immortal Technique