Cuthbert

lol m8

That was my fault sorry. What I meant was, I am taking back the claim that Speakerboxxx/TLB is the highest selling album in Hip-Hop history. It can't be cos it only sold 5.5m units but it's counted as double (11m) cos technically it's two albums. Seems pretty stupid tbh.

Yeah fair enough.

Black Francis

I haven't listened to alot of outkast so i can't speak on their favour but ive followed Eminem's career since he started and he went from a goofy white boy who made fun of himself as Slim shady to a legit rap icon.

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Cuthbert

You should imo.

Should get Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and work your way forward. My favourite of theirs is ATLiens but it's worth starting at the beginning and listening to how their sound changed. You'll probably like them, they've got something for everyone tbh.

John Wilkes Booth

Jay z, imo

Even weezy, arguably

Soulflower

He is the most overrated rapper of all time and I respectfully disagree.

Frownland

I'd like to see Killer Mike achieve this status. I think he's gotten into the public eye enough but I don't think he's at that status yet. I feel like he reached his full potential with RAP Music but hasn't hit that level since. Hopefully he does and solidifies his part in hip hop culture.

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FRED HALE SR.

I understand that which is why I'm not taking anything anyone has said as a basis for declaring him a legend when hes just one in his own mind.

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John Wilkes Booth

overrated or not he had a bigger impact on rap than kanye imo

i would add eminem to that list as well

FRED HALE SR.

I'd say Jay and Kanye are pretty equal for impact honestly. I'd give the street cred argument to Jay though and think he has more spit in his game and ability on the mic. Eminem is a better MC then either one of those guys.

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John Wilkes Booth

i would argue jay's impact is much more noticeable than kanye's. i'm really curious to hear people's opinions on how it is kanye has impacted rap music beyond making a name for himself. kanye is probably on equal footing in terms of his celebrity status... but as far as hip hop goes jay sort of carried the torch after biggie died and influenced a whole new generation of 'drug lord' persona rappers with crossover pop appeal. wayne was probably the biggest and most notable one, and he clearly takes after jay-z and cites him as his favorite rapper. but you also have young jeezy/rick ross/gucci mane/[insert trap oriented rapper here]... i'm sure most of you probably see this as a bad impact and i'd partially agree but it is a pretty noticable impact nonetheless

and tbh i think biggie is probably the most influential rapper of the last 20 or so years for this very reason.. arguably the most influential rapper since rakim imo

also there was the jay/nas beef which was easily the biggest hip hop beef since the east/west fued and at least partially gave a sort of resurgence to nas's career

not to mention jay put kanye on the map and thus is partially responsible for his impact as well



edit - also, i like em and i could honestly see why people would say he's better than jay but i honestly disagree. i'm in the minority in this opinion on here, i'm sure. to me, reasonable doubt alone > anything eminem has ever done. either way i don't think kanye should be mentioned in the same sentence as either of them in terms of rap skill. even wayne is miles ahead of kanye imo and he gets hated on relentlessly by internet fans who at the same time give the nod to kanye... i will never understand it